Episode #147 - Kepa's Skyward Penalty Wins Liverpool Carabao Cup! FA Cup Fifth Round Preview

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hello bum time podcast with mike laurent

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it is tuesday march 1st or is it

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february 29th i never know in this

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episode caramel cup is not crap who knew

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pielsa out marsh in americans in the

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premier league not good does anyone know

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what the [ __ ] a handball is but first

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mike abramovic said he has no ties to

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putin but somehow

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he's in belarus negotiating on behalf of

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ukraine

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that's weird what say you i don't i i uh

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uh it's been an

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interesting week for the embattled

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chelsea owner right uh we're actually

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gonna have a guest on thursday's show

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ollie carpenter um

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and a resident expert in both chelsea

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and uh the intersection of sport and and

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politics and fascism and fashion he runs

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goal lytics uh so check them out on

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twitter uh but you'll hear a whole lot

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more from him on thursday or friday i

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should say um

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about that whole situation it's interest

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it's interesting to find somebody like

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this because we're just as famously once

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called two idiots with a microphone um

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and it's going to be interesting to see

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him

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chat with us and as i was sort of

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talking to him in our like direct

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message conversation yeah i was like

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explain this to me like i'm five right

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so that's what we're gonna get yeah

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that's what we're gonna give to all of

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our fans and all the listeners so we're

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excited for that yeah i mean we're kind

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of we kind of we're a little we're a

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little low-brow we're a little high brow

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we're a little european history we're a

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little a little bit country we're a

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little bit rocky but i really love the

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intersection of war

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and and abramovic and chelsea and all

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this stuff it's amazing this if i could

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be on the show it would be all world war

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ii references but first i'm gonna do the

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scores here i go

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uh leeds nil four to spurs harry kane's

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pass was incredible we say goodbye to mr

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marcelo bielsa the leeds fans love him

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was he good i don't know we have

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newcastle beating brentford at home

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two-nil there was a red card in the

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first 10 minutes var got him but the

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good news the positive news of that was

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the return of christian erickson yay

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brighton my beloved brighton are scared

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of going to their level aston villa get

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back on the schneid get off the sheli

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they re-schneid they're schneiding they

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win two-nil they're doing well ollie

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watkins looking good and oh my god

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watford mill

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nil to manchester united this was a

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battering holy [ __ ] cristiano ronaldo

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might be finished but it's a nil nil

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battering but watford great and powerful

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watford took four points off man united

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and got their coach fired what

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1-1 burnley the burnley renaissance

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continues they say unbeaten in their

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last seven and manchester city struggle

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in a one-nil victory at goodison park

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there was some controversy in this game

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and the sunday game because we had the

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venerable uh

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carabao cup on

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sunday was west ham one wolves nil this

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was another statement game wolves

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sliding they're not as good west ham

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staying in the fight for the top four

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and that takes us

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to the carabao cup

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let's say you mic on carabao cup i

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could not be more thrilled with the

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outcome um

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i frankly i am not a fan of either team

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and that's putting it very

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diplomatically i [ __ ] hate both teams

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i would obviously if i had to choose

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between the two guns in my head i hate

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chelsea far more um local

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local local rifles yeah and but i just i

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was like whatever man

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i ended up watching i didn't watch the

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first half i watched the second half and

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then extra time um and then of course

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the penalties and

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edward mendy for me was man of the match

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like not close he was unbelievable

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kelleher was good too by the way and the

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only other person who had a claim to it

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is is the fourth official

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because he has his flag up so many times

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right so

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i mean weirdly it could have been it

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kind of should have been mason mount and

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pulisic pulisic was creating chances

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early in the 10 roll uh i thought

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havertz was i thought the attack from

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chelsea was really very good yeah no i

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mean they've got a lot of good play

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really good attacking players so that's

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not that shouldn't be surprising right

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but um

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i want to get right to the the

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you know

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the storyline

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can i i first guessed the [ __ ] out of

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that again before i have one thing i

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have one thing and i i don't want to go

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down this path but i think we really

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should there were

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across football across the league a lot

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of really really cool moments around the

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uh ukrainian players playing around the

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league you have yarmolenko and zinchenko

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and manyenko i don't think is that's his

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name on everton

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teams coming out with ukrainian uh flags

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on no war i really enjoyed the messaging

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all around uh football and football has

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really stepped up and condemned this

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whole thing pretty amazing uh of course

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fifa dragged its feet and took an extra

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three days to bar russia from the world

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cup i'm not giving anybody any credit

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especially fifa okay no

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fifa has human rights violations still

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happening in qatar i believe as they

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build stadiums upon dead bodies uh so

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that they can host this world cup in

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[ __ ] november the ioc

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waited three days after the olympics to

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uh to denounce russia while they let

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them play under the roc title where they

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get to let them stand on the podium by

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themselves or some [ __ ] um i don't know

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they don't get crazy but but anyway i do

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genuine stuff was cool like

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zinchenko crying you saw in portugal

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there was cool stuff anyway back to the

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carabao cup that is our ukrainian moment

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of the day we're thinking about it it's

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not not important but thursday we'll

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cover it go sorry yeah all right um i'm

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not gonna go down that rabbit hole

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because i could and i could take a

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divergent into the right but anyway

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let's go back to the kappa sub um oh

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yeah eduard mendy is the man of the

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match now if this is a 2-2 game

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and it's helter skelter back and forth

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and there's you know maybe some some

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shakiness in the back from mandy

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fine he's your penalties guy i get it

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it's not a big deal

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but he was a brick wall as he has been

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for chelsea most of the seasons

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especially the first 10 games he was

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carrying them yes and well i'd even say

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throughout because he you know

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and he just won a penalty shootout at

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afcon lest we forget that three weeks

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ago and the argument for

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is and there's plenty against it i'm

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going to get to that in a second but the

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the pawn the the argument for is he is

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he was basically humbled and he had to

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basically become

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he had to carve out his niche and in in

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not playing as much as mendy he became

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far more

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uh focused on penalties he was always a

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good penalty keeper before this so they

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say and he really honed in on this is

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going to be my thing and tukel and and

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and mandy and kappa have had

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conversations prior to the game like and

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i cuz i heard this was his reasoning and

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it's bad

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but he was like

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we play this was sort of the plan if it

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goes to penalties and you don't know

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because you might have to use all five

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subs but if you still have one this is

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going to be the plan

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okay

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keppa is five inches shorter than eduard

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mendy so as imposing as he may or may

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not be

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in the goal frame

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he's that much less imposing than eduard

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mendy is yeah

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so

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fine you bring him in i first guessed

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the [ __ ] out of it i was like this is

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the dumbest thing i've ever seen

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um

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yeah go ahead

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and then

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with the second and this is

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until the very end this is my favorite

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part of the match

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a lot of times you can you know you're

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dancing around on the line you're trying

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to put the shooter off a little bit he

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actively stood three steps to his right

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with when virgil van dyke went up to

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take this was amazing and he went he

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went hey

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put it over my left shoulder on my right

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shoulder i dare you and van dyke looked

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at him

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through him with disdain fired an

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absolute

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rocket ship that was the best part of

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the game

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that's his right

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temple it was amazing into the net and

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then

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turned around and stared him down for 40

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yards all the way back virgil van dyke

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went do you not only do you know who i

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am who the [ __ ] are you

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it was mwah

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i

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again i do not care for liverpool i do

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not care for van dyke yeah that was the

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best part take that man's hand so i

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actually awesome

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all right uh aveline i'm doing my

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podcast uh we may have interruptions uh

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i do have i have stats you ready go for

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it

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um

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oh okay uh penalty kicks uh attempted

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against mendy 28

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only three saves penalty kicks against

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keppa i think it's 12 and seven

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so we're talking about sample sizes that

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are minuscule i'm not i could buy i

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could buy the the mendy

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uh right

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he's big and whatever now i i don't

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i i thought more of this game i thought

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the penalties were the sort of icing on

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the cake i really loved all the missed

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chances i mean

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i mean

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each team had guys just go clean through

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i mean salah went clean through on a

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mistake by mindy he made a bad clearance

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um uh mason mount had two that he was

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cleaned through i thought i thought

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havert's pulisic

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uh mount was a much better front three

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than

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more fluid than what they've seen with

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lukaku all season i'm not playing lukaku

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anymore i want to see what those three

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have i think the big thing for chelsea

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is they don't they're not consistent

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like just play the three guys

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play your three smurfs

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give them

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five games and then change them let

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lukaku stew and just be like you're done

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and then uh of course the classic was

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werner in on goal passing it to passing

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it away when he didn't have the shot

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because god but he does make his penalty

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so good for werner but i thought it was

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a really good game everybody made their

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penalty amane save everything everybody

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made their penalty the other good one

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that i noticed and of course i was

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paying attention to it the whole time

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anything good that chelsea did came down

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trent alexander arnold side i don't care

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what you say liverpool fans the

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[ __ ]

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maybe it's the whole defense is so good

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that he's the weak spot and he's not bad

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but the fact is he gets spun around like

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atop every other attack down his side

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and they continue to defend him because

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his offense is so good i know it's good

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the baltimore was incredible he's always

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great with those passes i'm telling you

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some [ __ ] he's gonna lose you a

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game because he's standing straight up

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and gets spun around because he does all

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the time oh and there was a penalty

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somebody almost got their balls ripped

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off by a spike to the balls uh in the

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first half that was konate not konate

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who's the other keita and um and

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chalabag going for a clear 50 50 on

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review

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it was very red

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but uh i'm glad they didn't because it

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would have been a shame they'd be taken

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off had he been taken had he been sent

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off there would have been no complaint i

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mean the guy had stitches in his leg

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after the game yeah and they was really

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close to his dick i mean there was some

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there's i mean there was manhood flashed

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before him he must have been like oh my

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god i nearly lost a sack on this [ __ ]

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kick from this tiny african friend of

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mine but i thought shalabah was really

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good he [ __ ] put money in his pocket

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like i was talking to my co-worker and i

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was like well imagine if that had been

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christensen out there he would have

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gotten his [ __ ] lunch eaten because

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you know christensen's not gonna get

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that done anyway super fun game

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it had to be liverpool it had to be the

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[ __ ]

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scouses and all that's great about

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football blah blah blah you know it

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drives us both nuts you know the idea oh

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they're all singing you never walk alone

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in solidarity i'm like the chelsea fans

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were not singing you never walk alone

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[ __ ] off yeah right um

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let's and i

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in that theme look

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hey all the talk is about kappa and how

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he you know

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came in was worthless missed his it

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wasn't

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penalties it was incredible

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kelliher

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was

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for what he was

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no no no not as bad i mean over the

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course of the game he i thought he was

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pretty great yeah he was good and then i

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mean of course he stood up and made his

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penalty but to force kepler to have to

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miss his but ah have you i don't know if

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i've ever seen

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that many consecutive penalties it was

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incredible 21 consecutive penalties i

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don't know what happened i think you go

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around again

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yeah yeah that's right it just keeps

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going so anyway i don't i was i what i

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was curious and i'm glad i'm glad that

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i missed it

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i that was the most perfect ending for

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me actually but yeah what i don't know

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and i'm curious and i hope we almost

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found out was if you then have the same

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order or if you can mix it up again i

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would imagine it's gotta be tough they

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gotta lock it through you just have to

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go again

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that's why would you get to reshuffle

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like

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why not that's too much time what are

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you gonna have enough you know you're

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gonna have half time and redo the whole

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thing no because as i've said many times

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before i get another subject i change

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the keeper again no no what i'm saying

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is instead of having so let's see

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liverpool had milner fabinho van dyke

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trent uh and so on and so forth in that

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order

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they would want salah to go first they

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would want jota to go next they would

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want oh yeah yeah i understand

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so and again

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after not getting a shot in the afcon

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final

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he i mean there was a chance he didn't

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get a get to go i don't and i'll never

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agree with putting your best player last

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because there's there's the chance and

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risk that you're not going to uh to get

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him to shoot and

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even more when i was watching this

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spelling shootout i was doubling down on

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that theory to my wife who didn't give a

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[ __ ]

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um

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but actually she thought it was very

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compelling she was like holy [ __ ] this

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is awesome um that's why i married her

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uh it was it was it was i couldn't

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imagine being a fan of those two teams

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and my heart would have been in my mouth

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i wouldn't have watched it now to just

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run away

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the more

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value is it put like

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it's it's a it's a

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a staring contest that's all penalties

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is right so if you can make your enemy

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flinch and then potentially blink right

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if you have your best players go up

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there and your best players therefore

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have the most probability of scoring

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and by the way van dyke trent and salah

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you could have had two goalies in the in

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the net and they weren't going to stop

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those you know what you know i thought i

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thought the only ones that were poor i

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mean was konate who almost got it saved

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but i just kept i kept thinking as they

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all went up i was like wow all these

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guys are good like there's no there's

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nobody that you felt like was gonna was

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a bum

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i mean i i thought um i thought kanate

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would miss i thought harvey jolly it

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would miss

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shalabha i thought would miss dude

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shallabot looked shaoliba and konate

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were like uh oh right well challa buzz

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nearly had his dick chopped off so his

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leg was definitely hurting like he was

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not okay uh the fact that he was still

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out there was pretty good i thought i

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thought lukaku would sky it so that was

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oh my god i think if lukaku

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i was like it was like when kept came in

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i'd never in a million years was like

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yeah kepp is going to get a shot i was

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like i don't think who [ __ ] this up

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yeah the other thing that i still look

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great yeah it was all it was it was

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really really a fun game uh i you know i

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that's what good football is about and

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unfortunately it has to be two teams

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that we hate and two teams that

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narrative dictates that was great i

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think the world was rooting against

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chelsea especially the abramovich stuff

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that you're going to talk about on

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thursday and then of course uh you know

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the game prior was the the other

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controversy the weekend was cities game

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versus everton and we had a handball

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basically at the end of the game it was

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really a nondescript game i will give a

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lot of credit to everton they were very

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good they played with the crowd they

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fought

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city really hard city were disjointed

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because

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again it's a weakling sport and john

16:53

stones is paying left back

16:56

so everything was off the runs that that

16:59

walker would do to create space were

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never there everything just didn't work

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right and um and everton were in

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in city's face and had the better

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chances early in the game and could have

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lost this game there's no doubt about it

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but uh city get a goal uh i actually was

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a i was literally in the process of

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tweeting in like the 88th minute or late

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in the game wow this is michael keane's

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best game lo and behold he [ __ ] it up

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because he's terrible and if if

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i'm sure if i was on everton boards or

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everton uh four if you're an everton fan

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let us know how much do you hate michael

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keane every time i watch him he [ __ ]

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something up he's [ __ ] terrible so

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when you have a bad center back it's

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awful it's like he's a [ __ ] harry

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maguire and harry maguire's [ __ ]

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it's weird how parallel it said a lot

17:45

like everton and spurs supporters have

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like a kinship

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and like because they have the the red

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enemy they have the

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spurs enos

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historically city and everton also have

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have a kinship there's when they were

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both kind of the same level of [ __ ] yeah

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although everton are a much bigger club

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to be fair they've never been relegated

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and they are in the relegation zone like

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they're in the fight they are getting

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and we're gonna cover that in a minute

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but the controversy is

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randomly

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late in the game ball

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uh ball gets kicked downfield uh uh and

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and richarlson who has just never

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stopped running never stopped going down

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got the [ __ ] beat out of him by city he

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he gets on the ball there's a rebound

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and inexplicably

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rodri just

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plays the ball with his arm

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just like what the [ __ ] are you doing

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uh it's not great it is

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in a gray zone i would say it's

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it's about an inch down from a t-shirt

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sleeve isn't that about right

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if

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it's a handball it's a handball

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it's a handball oh of course it's a

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handball yeah but

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the

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call on the field they go to var

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on the field the referees

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after they go to var says oh no it was

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offside you should have never checked it

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but

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the ms nbc in the u.s

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they drew the lines but they were not

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the official lines they drew their own

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line they were like oh it was offside

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but then the premier league was like no

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it wasn't offside that's not handball

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like they had the out and they're like

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no it's [ __ ] it's we couldn't tell

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we couldn't tell because it was up high

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i'm like this is about as hand ball as

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handball gets and the re and you showed

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me that picture from the champions

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league final they had changed the rules

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since then i know that yours was still a

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handball that was the armpit shot into

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uh i'm sure it was dead it wasn't that

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just i know it's just oh no it's the

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soccer oh yeah of course

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seven seconds into the game yeah

19:44

fantastic thanks that was great way to

19:46

[ __ ] up the game um yeah

19:49

well at least he wasn't sent off uh but

19:51

anyway city dodge a bullet

19:54

lampard is that gives a classic end of

19:56

the game interviews like my

19:57

three-year-old daughter could see that

19:58

was a handball i don't know what's going

19:59

on

20:01

and the ceo of the team is is demanding

20:04

an apology to everton football club who

20:07

at this point you wouldn't think so they

20:09

[ __ ] need that point yeah no it's a

20:11

big point for them

20:13

and they played well and i think that

20:15

the bigger takeaway is while that might

20:17

be deflating they can feel good they

20:19

played really well and if they play like

20:21

that they're not going down i don't

20:22

think they're going down either ah

20:25

somebody is is the problem

20:27

okay

20:28

and we say you know it

20:31

it's foolish of me to try and handicap

20:33

this race at this point because it does

20:34

oh who knows and again it's you're

20:36

always

20:37

you're two wins away from not going down

20:39

yeah well and and newcastle now four out

20:42

of five wow i mean they're

20:45

they're they're now

20:47

safe as by virtue of the fact that there

20:49

are three teams between them and the

20:52

drop zone right so they're not right for

20:55

their guns they're they've they've

20:56

they're gone they've seen bedford leads

20:58

i'm scared for you guys i really am

21:01

because not only can burnley catch

21:03

everton burnley can catch both of them

21:06

quite easily

21:07

with one win they have three games in

21:09

hand on brentford and they have three

21:12

points to chase

21:13

and they have the dual difference and

21:16

they have lester on tuesday tomorrow

21:20

and they're a great team at heading

21:22

balls and they're going against

21:24

what is potentially the weakest defense

21:27

you could go against they're gonna scor

21:29

you you wanna let's look at the bet go

21:31

bet on burnley scoring a headed goal i

21:35

book it

21:36

book it

21:38

yeah

21:38

that is about as money as a goal vague

21:40

horse to score on a header just bet it

21:43

or me or tarkovsky any of those dudes

21:46

they're scoring a headed goal against

21:47

against lester it's just happening even

21:49

if they lose just go for the headed goal

21:51

right right right yeah

21:54

yeah so so we have we have leads

21:58

actually setting the record for goals

21:59

against in a month in the premier league

22:01

they really have been getting the doors

22:04

blown off them to the point that they

22:06

didn't want to sack bielsa they gave him

22:08

every chance not to and they just get

22:11

the [ __ ] kicked out of them it's so

22:13

weird do fire him

22:14

it's weird because

22:16

spurs as we've said many times are uh

22:20

maybe the best counter-attacking team in

22:22

the league but that's you know they're

22:24

they're the most comfortable when they

22:26

have an even split of the game but

22:28

you're trying to you know really get

22:30

after them and they can hit you on the

22:31

break let's be very clear about

22:33

something nine minutes into this game

22:36

ryan sessignon

22:38

teamed up with matt doherty one of my

22:41

sons

22:43

the crisscross across the field fan

22:45

[ __ ] it was great it was amazing when

22:48

he scored i was like oh that was

22:49

kulasefsky and i was like ah it's it uh

22:51

it's matt doherty's first goal for

22:54

tottenham

22:55

been here for two years that's what you

22:57

thought you were getting no well yes but

23:00

like at the same time i just i i was

23:02

like weeds get it together man holy [ __ ]

23:06

and then kulasepski hits the second one

23:08

and you're like all right this could get

23:09

ugly yeah it did

23:11

yeah because listen leads never blink

23:13

when they give up a goal that happens

23:16

like whatever we'll get it back

23:18

the problem is that recently and they

23:19

almost pulled it all the way back

23:20

against united recently but like

23:23

i don't know i there's just

23:26

yeah and after the second one you can

23:28

tell look it's like a boxer like they're

23:30

like they're like rocky right they're

23:33

really good at taking punches

23:35

but after a while

23:37

they add up right and so every time the

23:40

opposition lands one every time clubber

23:42

lang catches him with with a hook he

23:45

stands there but he wobbles a little bit

23:47

and you could feel ellen road

23:49

after the second goal from kulaseski who

23:51

loves a um

23:53

um a near post shot i've noticed that

23:56

i'm very interesting a big

23:58

big fan of what he possibly could be

23:59

he's all potential and you know no

24:02

substance yet but he's i mean he's been

24:04

pretty good returns so far but

24:06

leads they're just

24:09

they're they're like bleeding out slowly

24:11

and it's hard to watch but so now jesse

24:13

marsh comes in and i'm i'm very i'm i'm

24:16

hopeful i'm excited but i think i think

24:17

the key thing was you know if you would

24:19

have told me after that 3-2 in west ham

24:22

in mid-january that they were going to

24:23

go down which that 3-2 against west ham

24:26

was one of the games of the season the

24:27

hat-trick by harrison if you would have

24:29

told me that they were gonna basically

24:32

not

24:34

just disappear like they were going to

24:35

give up

24:36

30 goals in the next 10 games i mean

24:39

it's inconceivable and the issue is is

24:42

that they would give up goals but they

24:43

would always score right they'd have the

24:44

4-2 against united but it's four against

24:47

tottenham six against liverpool three

24:49

against everton without scoring if the

24:52

issue is in the defense which is really

24:54

bad the issue is they're not scoring

24:56

like they needed to keep scoring to even

24:59

have a chance and they can't score

25:01

well

25:02

i think yeah when they lost version of

25:05

like: 1314

25:07

exactly really now they're really bad

25:09

yeah right but what proves it more than

25:10

giving up a touchdown to cur present day

25:12

liverpool yeah right yeah yeah

25:14

so so bielsa goes i think the the thing

25:17

is is that there's clearly a plan in

25:20

place where marsh was identified as a

25:23

coach who fits in with what they want to

25:26

do with with bielsa it's not going to be

25:28

such a big transition

25:30

marsh comes from

25:32

red bull comes from ragnik comes from

25:35

the german school the ganging pressing

25:38

the the hazenhoodle it's going to look

25:40

more like southampton

25:42

than

25:43

than what you saw elsa big than leeds

25:46

but what was happening with bielsa is

25:47

the man marking just wasn't working

25:49

because what you saw from the great pass

25:51

from the incredible pass from harry kane

25:53

for the last goal he would just drop

25:54

deep the the center backs would follow

25:57

him and it would happen to every single

25:58

team they'd be like oh no you got to go

26:00

with him and then she was like teams

26:01

would just run through the space like

26:02

there he goes yeah what's happening so

26:06

it would work against shittier teams

26:07

where they could outscore them but that

26:09

one nil against newcastle really

26:12

put the put the end to them and they

26:14

gave him every chance and he was just

26:15

getting dogged but uh bielsa leaves

26:18

leeds as a legend he still

26:20

is completely loved they all love him

26:23

they all went to ellen road to say

26:25

goodbye yeah goes out with his head high

26:27

even though he's never won anything this

26:29

is where football is more interesting

26:31

and i was listening to a podcast today

26:32

it's

26:33

you know if it's just about trophies

26:36

then support one of the five or six

26:38

clubs who win trophies if it's just

26:40

about grinding out one nil results

26:43

then just check the score at the end of

26:44

the day

26:45

but if it's about entertaining

26:48

you and i have talked about it leeds was

26:51

must see tv they were great win or lose

26:53

yeah and so we lose that and that's why

26:56

yeah we're we're sad to see we pour a

26:58

little out for bielsa yeah yeah what did

27:01

i get on my dick i think it did there

27:03

you go

27:04

on your stitches um yeah yeah i just it

27:09

it reminded me a lot of when pochettino

27:11

got fired because you knew it had to

27:13

take you had to be done you didn't want

27:15

it it was like taking an old you know an

27:17

old dog out back sort of thing and

27:20

you're like no i just one more day no

27:21

you can't it's got it's got to be today

27:24

i mean you probably could have kept him

27:26

in it it yes

27:28

in the case of levy he knew it was more

27:30

expensive than wow

27:32

don't even get me started but the point

27:34

is that the

27:35

the

27:37

and it's it's unfair to be honest

27:38

because they were so hurt they just like

27:41

nobody all year no nothing they just

27:43

after guys were out all year yeah yeah

27:45

yeah

27:46

yeah but they've i mean they've still

27:48

got but they had to be a little bit more

27:50

pragmatic right like

27:51

at at some point and i'm never gonna do

27:54

it i know and this goes against exactly

27:56

all of his ethos and everything but like

27:59

a little a little bit right now

28:02

that's the beauty right it's the romance

28:03

criticism yeah it's no no no we're going

28:06

down we're doing it this way and we're

28:08

going down i think leeds fans would have

28:10

gone down with him they were ready they

28:12

have the second worst goal difference in

28:14

the in the league right now yeah that

28:16

is impressive important it's impressive

28:19

but it's also important for where they

28:20

are right now if they were still 12th it

28:22

would be hahaha that's hilarious poor bl

28:24

so that's sad but now

28:26

that might be the reason they go down

28:28

not because they haven't lost all these

28:29

games it has happened

28:32

they do not they

28:34

they are now

28:35

level with uh watford on

28:38

worst expected goal difference which is

28:40

uh even crazier well they're even worse

28:42

so they so this is the difference right

28:44

they are

28:45

they're minus 31 but their expected goal

28:48

difference is only minus 50. yeah they

28:50

had they're actually giving up more

28:52

against spurs okay they had two goal

28:54

posts they had a ball where loris had

28:57

misplayed it at like 30 yards away from

29:00

goal where he is not good he's great in

29:02

the box but outside he's a mess

29:04

he plays it i forget who it was comes in

29:07

down the left

29:08

and like hesitates there's no goalkeeper

29:12

ben davies is uh no it wasn't even ben

29:13

davies one of the one of the centerbacks

29:15

is standing in the net worthless and ben

29:18

davies comes swooping in like the flash

29:20

and blocks the shot

29:22

and you're like what what are you guys

29:24

doing here some of us had both teams to

29:26

score what the [ __ ] are you doing leeds

29:29

uh melie is the oh i mean obviously when

29:31

you're when you have the worst goal

29:33

difference like that melee the

29:34

goalkeepers are now the least lucky or

29:37

least shot-stoppy i don't get the sense

29:39

that melie is that bad but the shot

29:42

expected saves are bad for them they're

29:45

just playing a lot of bad luck they're

29:47

getting no luck in scoring so you know

29:49

it

29:50

you could make the argument that maybe

29:51

they should pull a goalkeeper and change

29:53

him it's the easiest thing to do maybe

29:55

that would have changed her luck or

29:56

they're just giving up really really

29:59

awful [ __ ] the chances they're giving

30:01

up yeah yeah just like it's

30:04

destructive now we have two games here

30:06

that were not great to watch but are

30:09

interesting for the top four race the

30:11

nil nil uh watford it's just laughable

30:14

that united just can't [ __ ] get past

30:17

lee watford who are literally the worst

30:19

defensive team in the league and then

30:20

west ham getting back

30:23

on track

30:24

getting their goal from suck scruffy and

30:28

again

30:29

it can't go past every week

30:32

declan rice is just a [ __ ] beast

30:36

like whoever gets him and i don't know

30:38

and i hope it's not chelsea and i hope

30:41

actually i hope it's chelsea because you

30:42

know what toucal's such an [ __ ] he'll

30:44

[ __ ] it up because he's like oh we have

30:46

to do something different and make you

30:48

not do what you like to do but what i'd

30:50

really like to see what i think the

30:52

world would like to see is two english

30:54

midfielders together him and [ __ ]

30:57

conor gallagher in the midfield for

30:59

chelsea and it would be [ __ ] beefy

31:03

englishness

31:04

with all that flare up front if they do

31:06

that they're [ __ ] geniuses and maybe

31:09

the abramovich thing falls apart and

31:10

they both have to come back oh my god or

31:13

they'll both

31:14

whoever gets kelleher and if someone is

31:16

smart enough to sign kelleher and rice

31:18

i'll just be like i might have to i

31:20

might have to i might gallagher sorry if

31:22

someone assigns gallagher and rice

31:24

together as like chelsea homeboys i

31:27

might i might have to be like i might

31:29

have to use like incognito mode and a

31:31

vpn and just put on chelsea shirts on

31:33

videos and just wear a mustache and just

31:35

like look at them

31:38

uh but you know

31:40

i love those two guys the englishness it

31:42

just it's it's why we like the premier

31:44

league that's his style

31:46

it really does yeah yeah but rice willed

31:48

the team to win so many good moments uh

31:51

him and sue check they had another good

31:53

sort of um another cool moment for for

31:56

yarmolenko who actually left

31:59

and went to the ukraine and be like not

32:01

that he's playing means david moyes is

32:03

like

32:03

kind of helps just why don't you stay

32:05

there for a while

32:10

i mean they're giving out ak-47s you

32:11

might as well just go i have one yeah

32:13

have one have at it boyle uh so he goes

32:16

and that happens and then do let's cover

32:18

let's cover the let's cover the

32:20

relegation fight between newcastle gets

32:22

their win we're worried about brentford

32:24

and deich gets their draw against uh

32:27

crystal palace

32:28

of course they only take one shot versus

32:31

crystal palace the [ __ ] and dice has

32:33

them one point off of everton

32:35

and they've got if they get another draw

32:37

and everything drops out of the game

32:38

everton falls into the relegation zone

32:41

again i don't think like you

32:44

i don't think that they'll be the third

32:45

team

32:46

and by the way watford still has it has

32:49

a shot i i i mean i'm not

32:52

i'm not it's very close i mean it is

32:54

extremely close i mean everybody watford

32:57

i think you know definitely [ __ ]

32:59

i mean sorry uh

33:01

norrish they don't even know

33:04

um

33:05

and again it comes back to i've harped

33:07

on this pretty much every episode for

33:10

two months if not two years uh games in

33:12

hand and watford and norwich don't

33:14

really have any aside from on brentford

33:16

so they don't really have any get out of

33:18

jail free cards whereas burnley still

33:20

has two

33:21

um and that's where you look at it and

33:23

that's why i think everton will probably

33:24

be okay uh they'll fall ass backwards

33:26

into points somewhere

33:28

but if i if you had to pick one it's

33:31

like a [ __ ] marry kill for relegation

33:33

right um

33:34

brentford or leeds who stays and who

33:36

goes right now

33:39

i'd rather have leads than branford no

33:41

who do you think but who do you think oh

33:42

who do i think

33:45

if burnley catches

33:47

oh here's

33:48

actually actually here's what i thought

33:50

i think one of the things that's

33:51

happened with brentford is the injury to

33:54

the goalkeeper and no tony i think

33:56

they're getting back tony they've got

33:58

the goalkeeper he's got to get back into

34:00

form i've got to believe that eriksen

34:03

connecting in that midfield even if it's

34:06

only part time with tony will make a

34:08

difference and tony will find a way

34:11

because what was happening to them was

34:13

their get out of jail was to kick it to

34:15

tony and he'd he'd take the pressure off

34:16

the defense whether he did anything with

34:18

it

34:19

that value of kicking a ball

34:22

up to a guy who will fight for second

34:24

balls uh is invaluable and they didn't

34:28

have that so they couldn't get out and

34:30

so the defense was getting exposed and

34:32

those breathers that those strikers give

34:34

you are massive

34:36

and that's one of the things that

34:37

happened with with newcastle as well

34:39

newcastle all of a sudden their defense

34:41

got better because they knew they could

34:43

just kick it up to chris wood and he'd

34:44

give them 10 seconds he'd give them 15

34:47

seconds to push up get organized even if

34:50

there was a second ball that they lost

34:52

at least they were reset

34:53

and so

34:54

everything connects right like i know i

34:57

talk about it i sound crazy but it is a

34:59

weak link sport and you defend from the

35:01

front even a hold up striker who doesn't

35:03

score goals is actually super [ __ ]

35:06

valuable if he gives you 10 seconds

35:10

so you're picking brentford to stay and

35:11

i'm going to i want them to stay i want

35:14

i mean i want who's in the bottom three

35:16

to go down that all right well hold on

35:18

though and i'm gonna sound like a dumb

35:20

[ __ ] but

35:21

isn't burnley starting to become a

35:23

little likable they beat my team last

35:26

week let me be very clear about course

35:27

of course they're like likable but i

35:28

don't want that do i have like burnley

35:31

do i have burnley stockholm syndrome is

35:32

this what's going on i think no they are

35:34

likeable i think uh uh why gout and corn

35:37

made them

35:38

fun and

35:40

they playing better

35:41

oh they're playing they're playing angry

35:44

they're playing no this is this is what

35:46

i mean this is what this is in dice we

35:48

trust he finds the energy the team is

35:52

like okay we're [ __ ] around for a

35:54

half it's now we're ready we got the

35:56

covet out of the way now it's less like

35:58

ben me and tarkovsky are just like

36:01

this is our team i've been in the

36:03

premier league for nine of the last 10

36:05

seasons if any of you people [ __ ] this

36:07

up i will kill you i'll kill your

36:09

families yeah right families listen you

36:11

[ __ ] dutch guys you don't understand

36:14

this is life or death this is my town

36:16

i've been here my whole life for ben me

36:18

and for ben me he was a manchester city

36:21

academy graduate do you know how close

36:23

[ __ ] burnley is to manchester it's

36:25

literally like

36:26

long island to manchester it's up the

36:28

road

36:29

yeah right there's like 14 teams inside

36:32

the manchester city area and burnley is

36:34

one of them and so ben me does not [ __ ]

36:36

around and tarkovsky is i know he's

36:38

english but his name's tarkovsky that

36:40

means he's polish that means he's tough

36:42

his head is gigantic he petrifies me uh

36:45

i i think burnley stay up as much as i

36:47

don't want them to i really want to see

36:49

corny score another goal and connect

36:50

with veghorst that is just my dream

36:53

they're fun i i'm enjoying them that's

36:56

good well you'll get we can watch them

36:57

on tuesday against leicester that

36:59

actually is going to be good it's going

37:01

to be a good uh yeah

37:03

i uh

37:04

because lester have to

37:06

start like if you know what's funny i

37:08

was gonna say you need to channel 13 14

37:09

liverpool i'm like they have to coach

37:11

just go

37:14

just stop trying to sit on on leads just

37:18

attack never stop attacking win 5'3

37:21

because if you get a two goal lead

37:22

you're gonna give it up because you

37:24

stink

37:26

and uh and and i do say that about um my

37:29

guy uh

37:30

or more what i care about his [ __ ]

37:32

name anymore who's the goalkeeper i keep

37:33

killing on their team they're only going

37:35

on on lesser yeah my brain's melting oh

37:39

schmeichel schmeichel so i'm like

37:41

schneider

37:42

schneiderlin

37:43

that's morgan schneiderlin yeah i mean

37:45

we don't really have much to talk about

37:47

but i just remembered we have games on

37:51

saturday

37:52

well we got we got the fa cup too we

37:54

have the fa cup that's what i was going

37:56

to say what we have for the fa cup

37:58

is

37:59

not much but we do have the fa cup

38:02

itself so tomorrow randomly so burnley

38:05

and lester are playing also

38:08

peterborough i don't know where that is

38:09

play manchester city along with crystal

38:12

palace playing stoke city so some old

38:14

friends and some new friends we also

38:15

have your beloved tottenham hotspur

38:18

playing middlesboro

38:21

they gotta be careful yeah i would be

38:23

worried this is a good team

38:25

yeah

38:26

and let's be clear i mean spurs have

38:28

because

38:30

we have a hot potato race for the for

38:32

for the top four officially now right

38:34

like united don't want it uh west ham

38:36

can't figure it out arsenal have the

38:38

inside track as we were talking about

38:39

offline but um you know spurs are in the

38:42

race still despite their best efforts so

38:45

um they don't have this isn't the only

38:48

thing they have left to play for but it

38:50

is certainly the only chance they have

38:51

at a trophy so i think that they'll go

38:53

full bore i don't think that um

38:55

that that kante will take this lightly

38:58

no he won't he won't he's just yeah i

39:00

just uh

39:02

it's going to be scene we'll see yeah

39:05

are you ready for one of these classic

39:06

because the fa cup is the oldest

39:08

continuous tournament in world football

39:11

started in: 1876

39:14

ready including replays tottenham have

39:17

never lost to middlesboro in the fa cup

39:19

four wins two draws through those two

39:22

draws though those two draws came as the

39:24

away side in february: 1905

39:28

2020. you remember

39:31

yes oh i actually know i remember the

39:33

january: 2021

39:35

yeah

39:36

i love the february: 1905

39:38

1905. yeah they didn't get drawn out of

39:41

the hat at the same time the the sorting

39:42

hat of the fa cup by the way for people

39:45

for our american friends who are

39:47

uninitiated uh the fa cup is just the

39:49

coolest [ __ ] thing it's so cool that

39:51

the nba is trying to do it and they're

39:52

gonna ruin it but they are every team in

39:55

england

39:56

792 teams enter one man leaves

40:00

let's talk about that for a second

40:02

because and i'm not a big basketball fan

40:04

i'm curious to take on this the knicks

40:06

right

40:07

if the knicks are not in the playoff

40:08

picture and they're in the whatever the

40:10

[ __ ] fa cup third round it's it's the

40:12

it's the it's the uh

40:14

stern cup

40:16

for sure for the dead for the dead

40:18

commissioner yes that's actually i would

40:20

argue that's a pretty appropriate name

40:21

for the trophy um

40:24

would because he made the nba what it is

40:26

they imagine

40:27

the david stern cup let's call it that

40:29

sure uh

40:31

two things a

40:33

do they go harder for this than they do

40:35

for a potential playoff spot and b if

40:38

they succeed and they win the stern cup

40:41

how is that received by players and by

40:43

fans

40:44

i think it's something that you should

40:46

do

40:47

you make it you give you give the team

40:50

choices for what they get they can

40:52

either the players can either get money

40:53

extra money which is probably not that

40:55

interesting

40:56

i think they could get extra ping pong

40:58

balls for the draft ah

41:02

i like that or um what else could they

41:05

get money

41:06

ping pong balls you could get no you

41:08

could you could [ __ ] around with the

41:10

playoff structure you could say

41:12

uh basically

41:14

think of it like europa league no it's

41:16

got to be separate it's got to be

41:17

separate like not part of the league i

41:19

don't think he's connected to the league

41:20

at all no no well i mean think about it

41:22

right like if you win the fa cup you

41:24

automatically get a year league spot

41:26

oh i see what you're saying you saying

41:28

that if they you reserve a playoff spot

41:30

for a team that wins the cup

41:33

yeah but

41:34

the problem with with basketball is

41:35

there are no upsets although if it's a

41:37

one game if it's only one game then you

41:40

could get a weird team but they were and

41:42

here's the thing

41:42

if

41:44

think okay oh here's what they can do

41:46

you could because they now have a play

41:48

in you could get into the playing right

41:50

oh they have play-ins and [ __ ] now yeah

41:52

they made a play in from uh uh they have

41:56

ten

41:56

ten plays eight

41:58

nine i'm trying so hard to respect the

42:01

nba i'm really trying guys yeah and i

42:04

can't

42:05

it's just for oh my god anyway it's it's

42:07

fun it does it has the same problem the

42:09

nhl has which is regular seasons not

42:11

mattering because they devalue their own

42:13

product

42:14

uh to an extent to an extent the

42:18

no the nba is different in the sense

42:19

that they're like we don't want to play

42:22

[Laughter]

42:23

yeah that part's bad well but the nba is

42:25

a strong link sport so it's worse right

42:27

there's less team ethos you know if if

42:30

the if if the capitals come out and

42:32

ovechkin wants to go to suck on putin's

42:35

toe you know they can still play without

42:37

ovechkin and still be the king yes and

42:40

who by the way is catching all types of

42:42

[ __ ] because he's not saying anything

42:45

there is no right answer and only a sea

42:48

of wrong answers because he has family

42:51

still in russia well that's what he

42:53

should say he should be like ixnay i'm

42:55

not talking about family a uh

42:58

everything's fine yeah not if you're not

43:00

if you're okay look you're being asked

43:03

to

43:04

join in the chorus

43:06

but you're because people are

43:07

pronouncing you're you're american yeah

43:09

yeah yeah renouncing your home country

43:11

yeah and

43:13

in doing so endangering the lives of

43:15

friends and family you have back home

43:17

because you don't know where you're

43:18

going

43:19

for what for some [ __ ] retweets for

43:21

some yeah for some virtue points no it's

43:23

jesus i think he i think he has said he

43:26

condemns it but not direct of course

43:28

yeah of course by the way our temmie

43:30

panerai one of the also really like

43:32

prominent russians he's on the rangers

43:34

is a joke about how he uses a flip phone

43:36

because he's an enemy of the state back

43:38

home all right because he openly

43:40

criticized putin he uh novell knee he's

43:44

a big supporter noveli and he said as

43:46

much yeah yeah he was like [ __ ] putin

43:48

this is my guy and everybody went hey

43:50

we're gonna kill your sister like like

43:53

this is

43:55

hey the war comes home real fast let's

43:58

go through some more in that fifth round

43:59

so uh stoke palace your team chelsea

44:02

play luton town i don't know where luton

44:04

town is called uh but it sounds

44:06

interesting i like the id i would think

44:09

that chelsea's gonna mail this game in

44:10

having just played 120 minutes and had

44:12

their whole [ __ ] team go to war uh i

44:15

would imagine that luton town's gonna

44:17

get a nice easy breezy game probably the

44:19

toughest and most interesting matchup is

44:21

southampton west ham two teams that

44:23

probably want to try and win this thing

44:24

and go as far as they can

44:26

i like this game that's on wednesday

44:28

liverpool norwich city liverpool will

44:30

also play the c team against norwich

44:34

no doubt about that the biggest team in

44:35

this is boreham wood against everton

44:38

boreham wood

44:39

of non-league they are the lowest ranked

44:42

team in the system they are in the

44:45

national league north in fact when i

44:46

click on the standings for borehamwood

44:48

in uh google there's no information

44:53

that's how low down they are i can't

44:55

even find them uh they're not even they

44:57

don't even appear so boreham wood uh

44:59

they they are still in the league

45:01

they're still there they are i think the

45:03

number one defense in all of england so

45:06

they don't give up [ __ ] so that is what

45:08

good teams do they fight to the end they

45:11

won't give up anything but they probably

45:13

don't have the quality but as long as

45:15

michael keane plays i worry for everton

45:17

and then of course we have the classic

45:18

not on amphars versus huddlesfield both

45:20

those teams playing well in the

45:22

championship both with some decent

45:24

history huddersfield: 1931

45:27

two-time first division champions also

45:30

the um the home team of uh of um oh [ __ ]

45:34

i can't remember anybody's name jean-luc

45:36

picard the actor i can't remember his

45:38

name and uh you know formerly in the

45:40

premier league uh but

45:42

yeah that's the fa cup not really a lot

45:45

to write home about you'd expect the big

45:46

boys city to go through chelsea to go

45:49

through liverpool to go through the same

45:51

three teams weirdly keep showing up

45:53

along with uh your friends

45:55

in tottenham but will end up probably

45:57

with a chelsea

45:59

liverpool or a city liverpool especially

46:02

as long as these matchups keep getting

46:03

easier and easier

46:05

uh we're getting into the round of 16

46:07

and we are there

46:10

mike anywhere you want to go yeah i want

46:12

to talk about cristiano ronaldo oh yes

46:14

of course

46:15

he

46:16

i'm looking at the non-penalty

46:19

goal scorers in the premier league this

46:20

year okay he's not good

46:23

i'm looking at two through nine because

46:24

i'm struggling with that be ref at the

46:25

moment mo salah 15 diego jota 12 sadio

46:28

monte 11 by the way liverpool scored a

46:30

lot of goals because you got noticed it

46:32

really [ __ ] sunny with 10 emil smith

46:34

rowe at nine and then you've got uh tied

46:36

with row emmanuel dennis jamie vardy

46:39

who's been out since like the war of

46:41

1812 since since the last war right

46:45

and bruno fernandez all at nine and

46:47

bruno gets his a fair amount of penalty

46:49

goals to find then with eight your boy

46:51

jared bowen michael antonio raheem

46:53

sterling and conor gallagher

46:55

who did i not just say

46:58

christian cristiano ronaldo he's on nine

47:00

on seven non-penalty goals oh

47:03

non-penalty yes yep he's not in the top

47:06

15

47:08

no

47:09

no what is that

47:10

six seven eight nine ten

47:12

twelve he's 13. he's tied for 13th in

47:16

non-penalty goals

47:18

what is in the water

47:20

on that side of manchester i just look

47:23

is it catching up with him is it

47:25

uh

47:26

just

47:28

because they have all the attacking

47:29

talent in the world right now he's

47:30

always the man demanding the ball in the

47:32

box i think that he has missed a couple

47:35

i think that he is 37 years old and to

47:40

use the greatest of all sports cliches

47:43

what is it mike

47:44

father time is

47:46

undefeated

47:48

and you know between he and zlatan you

47:51

know we know he's taking care of his

47:53

body yes he's still great but he's not

47:56

great enough to be

47:58

the

47:59

every game striker for manchester united

48:02

uh he has had he has had moments he had

48:04

good goals early in the season

48:06

especially when you know they thought

48:07

they were going to change the world with

48:08

him and he got on some balls and he has

48:10

won them some games especially here and

48:12

there it's not that he's not great but

48:15

when you look when you look at all the

48:18

players born in the premier league and

48:20

you sort by year born there's guys

48:23

before you get to the year cristiano was

48:26

born which is um

48:28

1985

48:30

there's 514 players ahead of him right

48:33

right right right there's only there's

48:35

only 10 players older than him

48:38

and it should be said he

48:40

for what they actually ended up paying

48:42

uh i guess the fee for not the salary

48:45

not much

48:46

seven goals isn't that bad of a return

48:48

especially given the points that he's

48:49

given them i do i do think though

48:52

that his mobility and lack of he he's

48:56

his lack of mobility pace and power

48:59

anymore i feel i still think he's lethal

49:01

like if he was playing the way danny

49:03

ings plays

49:04

that would be fine

49:06

or if he was playing if he was playing

49:08

for city it would be fine

49:10

they'd have to change the way they play

49:12

but

49:13

the fact that liverpool i mean that

49:15

manchester united have so many

49:18

young players who can run and still like

49:21

play up the middle and attack

49:24

he limits their options he limits the

49:26

way they play they can't they can't be

49:28

as flexible they can't play

49:30

rashford alanga and and sancho i mean

49:33

that would be a good grouping

49:35

despite the fact that rashford might be

49:38

a mess because he got hurt and is out of

49:40

form but you know they did move on from

49:42

marshall i think you loved marshall two

49:44

years ago when he scored 20 goals in

49:45

that first that first holy season when

49:47

it was like oh happy days are here again

49:50

and i think that they never really

49:51

intended to cr to to sign ronaldo we

49:54

talked about this early in the year they

49:56

got duped he has a good agent he created

49:59

a [ __ ] market when there wasn't one

50:02

somehow tricked manchester united into

50:04

thinking city was going to sign him

50:06

whether they were or not they should

50:08

have let city sign him it wouldn't have

50:10

made a difference

50:12

because city would have figured out oh

50:13

we can't play the way we like to this

50:15

sucks right and like when has city ever

50:18

signed a 37 year old never never

50:21

it's um

50:22

it's interesting to look at his stats

50:24

because if you go just straight down the

50:26

goals line he's got you know in his last

50:28

few years juventus 20 uh his first year

50:31

he had 21

50:32

31 29 hold on though

50:35

in: 2019

50:38

goals yeah he went 12 for 13 from the

50:41

spot so he had 19 goals which let's be

50:43

very clear from open play is a fantastic

50:45

return and then without looking i'm sure

50:47

that's very close to the top of the

50:48

league you've a one won the set one

50:50

series for the second consecutive year

50:53

but then they started to fall off and it

50:54

wasn't

50:55

his production wasn't the thing that

50:58

fell off but the team around him was

51:00

starting to fall apart and yuve now is

51:02

is a disaster right and so i wonder and

51:05

i don't watch serie a nearly i mean much

51:07

at all nearly enough to to say

51:10

but like

51:11

did we know that this is who he was

51:13

before he signed for

51:15

you

51:16

talk to u of a people

51:18

yes

51:19

yeah that's kind of what i think because

51:21

i remember seeing

51:23

what was the really dramatic champions

51:24

league game with him a few years ago i

51:26

forget i think it was where he got the

51:27

hat trick and they lost anyway they lost

51:29

atletico right yeah yeah here's here's

51:32

here's the difference right are you

51:33

ready

51:35

from: 2016

51:40

6.9 5.7 6 5.2

51:45

then he's down to three and a half shots

51:47

per game he needs to be shooting more

51:50

to score all those goals he's a if he's

51:53

a he's a he's a kobe bryant type he's

51:55

volume he's got to be shooting yeah and

51:58

he's not taking those shots because he's

52:00

not getting the space and united just

52:02

aren't

52:03

united don't possess the ball when have

52:05

you seen a uh a line splitting ball

52:10

come from central midfield like a tony

52:12

cruz might do like a like a luka modric

52:15

might do like a kevin de bruyne might do

52:18

a ball coming from deep going into

52:20

ronaldo when he's on the move it simply

52:22

doesn't happen because it doesn't happen

52:24

at united because they don't have the

52:25

players to do it it's got to go to

52:28

fernandez first fernando's got to survey

52:30

and by then whatever advantage that

52:33

cristiano has had is already lost

52:35

because he's too slow

52:38

i've made that up but it sounded good

52:41

i don't i don't know that he's too slow

52:42

but it's

52:43

it makes he's definitely not as fast as

52:45

he used to be no of course he's too slow

52:48

for 25 year old ronaldo standards right

52:50

of course i mean 25 i mean

52:54

real madrid ronaldo was you know he had

52:56

40 goals when he was 25 by the way he

52:59

had 46

53:00

in his age 26 season we're not going to

53:03

see these numbers ever again no no no

53:05

and

53:06

he broke

53:07

sport

53:08

i don't mean to say that i expect

53:11

him

53:12

i expected him to be the best player in

53:15

the league that's not what i'm saying

53:17

but what i did expect was him

53:20

i didn't expect three liverpool players

53:22

to be the top three in non-penalty goals

53:24

right and goals from effectively from

53:26

open play and yeah

53:28

i just i and frankly i'm surprised kane

53:31

isn't closer to the top i'm surprised

53:33

although you you did spend 10 or 15

53:36

games with the least yeah no i know

53:39

worst coach in the league what i'm

53:40

saying is when you look at the chart and

53:43

you go

53:44

huh

53:45

jared bowen is ahead of cristiano

53:46

ronaldo and

53:48

and uh and harry kane he's one of those

53:52

against but it goes back to it

53:55

both those team jared bowen plays on a

53:57

team with what a really good central

53:59

midfielder who breaks the lines and gets

54:01

him the ball out wide when he's on the

54:03

move what does harry kane not have

54:05

someone in central midfield who breaks

54:07

the lines and gets him out on the move

54:09

he has to literally come get the ball

54:11

turn around hit it to someone and then

54:13

run into the box and have it come back

54:15

to him

54:16

he has to be the nine and a ten i lied

54:19

he probably has a great therapist um

54:21

yeah so

54:22

if if if ronaldo had trent alexander

54:25

arnold [ __ ] pinging wings from three

54:27

quarters inside the half just going boo

54:30

those nuclear bombs he drops

54:33

they're so incredible i [ __ ] hate him

54:35

for it yeah or or or someone like

54:37

conselo just

54:38

weaving things in getting to the byline

54:40

and him just standing there like if you

54:42

don't think ronaldo could do the [ __ ]

54:44

um the the raheem sterling role where he

54:46

stands in the back corner and just puts

54:48

his foot down on the ground a ball hits

54:50

off of it right and he scores 20 goals

54:53

actually that's unfair to raheem he does

54:54

a lot of other stuff anyway we're

54:56

getting near time

54:57

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