Episode 119

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22nd Nov 2021

Episode #119 - Ole Out, Canada Go Top of CONCACAF, Conte Urges Tottenham to Win

In Episode #119 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Laurent is back and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is gone after a dreadful performance in his last game managing Manchester United, a 4-1 loss to Watford. Also:

  • The end is here for Ole: we say goodbye to the most-talked about person in Squeaky Bum Time history
  • Premier League Contenders Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester City handle the tricky post international break fixtures.
  • Arsenal show they aren't ready against Liverpool
  • Canada beat Mexico to go top of CONCACAF... we told you to watch out for these guys!
  • USMNT drops points against Jamaica after their big Mexico win because of course
  • Tottenham come from behind against Leeds as Antonio Conte riles up the Tottenham Stadium crowd like it's White Hart Lane.

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Transcript

00:01

hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

00:04

time podcast it is tuesday november 23rd

00:08

third third in this episode canadian

00:10

concacaf chaos that's a lot of seas the

00:13

premier league is back ola is sacked if

00:15

i like i'm rapping we have new bandages

00:18

your bounces everywhere there were two

00:19

three threes but first mike

00:22

i was excited probably more than you

00:23

were kante

00:25

fist bumps and is this the best

00:27

half that spurs has played since

00:29

pochettino

00:30

so the the quick paid answer is yes the

00:33

actual answer the not fun one is

00:35

mourinho it was the first few weeks of

00:37

mourinho i was there and it was [ __ ]

00:39

fabulous also the six three was good the

00:42

six one whatever it was was good well

00:44

yeah but that was more about united

00:46

playing like garbage and then oh you

00:47

mean they've been they've been terrible

00:49

for a long time and no one noticed

00:52

yeah yeah um

00:54

no and the thing that it reminded me of

00:57

was the last season at white hart lane

00:59

with like that's the quick bait answer

01:00

you're looking for right like where like

01:02

kane is flying and the goals are going

01:04

in left and right and i i mean they only

01:06

won two to one but they could have had

01:08

five right so um

01:11

was that three posts they hit in the

01:12

second half

01:14

yeah i just thought it was one of these

01:15

things where the narrative was

01:17

spurs were playing how they had been

01:20

this kind of like how do we play what do

01:23

we do

01:24

there's three at the back i uh where's

01:27

this guy supposed to be

01:28

maura was doing his running i thought

01:31

regulon was good

01:33

i thought he was really bad but he was

01:35

just it was just a function that he was

01:36

taking a lot of risks and sort of paying

01:40

for a lot of them um but he ends up

01:42

being in the right place at the right

01:43

time and scores the winner so i thought

01:45

it was nice to see winks i think winks

01:47

will be one of those players who can be

01:49

coached and will take on what the coach

01:51

says so he'll play so he'll be a kante

01:54

guy and kante will say

01:57

[ __ ] dumbley you don't [ __ ] listen

01:59

i'm gonna go with this [ __ ] who

02:01

doesn't do [ __ ] but at least he does

02:03

what i ask him to and i'm gonna ask him

02:05

to pass forward and he's going to pass

02:07

forward anyways it's important well

02:09

let's stop there for a second it's

02:10

important to have winks in the side and

02:13

in in contention for places because

02:15

what you need out of him is to build up

02:17

his confidence back right like he he's

02:19

shattered mason tried a little bit after

02:21

mourinho but it just never worked under

02:23

nuno and now you've got a kid who's not

02:26

kid anymore but like you've got a guy

02:27

who's essentially just

02:29

useless in his own body because he he

02:31

can't string a pass together it's almost

02:32

like he's got the yips so

02:34

what kante is doing is two things a

02:36

reacting to a

02:37

alarming lack of depth in the midfield b

02:40

he's he's saying in don belay you're

02:43

like like i've been saying for years

02:45

[ __ ] you dude you've got all the talent

02:47

the world and you got a 10 cent head

02:49

like you don't care

02:50

so i'm not going to play you um but what

02:53

i liked was was the return the first

02:55

half looked like spurs the second half

02:57

looked like

02:59

kante was like

03:01

not

03:02

[ __ ] today

03:03

not today is this [ __ ] happening he

03:06

put he had the jacket he didn't have the

03:08

jacket on he puts the jacket on so

03:10

jacket first step he's ginning up the

03:13

[ __ ] crowd he has had it he either

03:17

and and and should they have played that

03:19

way in the first half i thought it was a

03:20

great juxtaposition

03:22

against ole where

03:25

all they just never got anything out of

03:28

united

03:29

and in this one instance you see the

03:31

difference between a coach and not a

03:34

coach right when united would come back

03:36

it wasn't because all they did anything

03:38

it was because the united players were

03:39

like [ __ ] we got to come back you never

03:41

saw ola get mad you never saw him yell

03:44

you never saw him do anything with kante

03:46

he's got [ __ ] an extra

03:50

half a percent out of white heart lane

03:53

he literally

03:54

pushed them on and it worked and i saw

03:57

the two times it's working

04:00

the two types of work this year was the

04:02

first game against city where it wasn't

04:03

anything to do with nuno it was

04:04

coincidentally his first game but it was

04:06

it was the

04:07

um

04:08

tottenham versus the world mentality

04:10

especially with city coming in the whole

04:11

cane narrative all that yeah but this

04:14

was sort of a

04:15

we we need our club back right i mean it

04:17

wasn't the first game with with kante

04:19

but it was the first winnable game which

04:22

all narrative aside for a second leads

04:24

in the second half we're gonna get into

04:26

best bets a little bit later on i guess

04:28

or maybe on thursday or whatever

04:30

bet against leeds in the second half

04:32

holy [ __ ] not only do they play in

04:34

aggressive style so that leaves them

04:35

open at the back

04:37

they have the most goals against in the

04:38

second half against of any team in the

04:40

premier league

04:41

and they're just bad

04:43

on defense right and and spurs we've

04:46

talked about spurs being just

04:48

stuck in neutral for months now

04:52

basically

04:53

going well back into last season and

04:55

this

04:56

is the team that shredded you now

04:58

granted they do have all the talent in

04:59

the world but sunny and kane and and

05:01

others but really

05:04

so leads

05:05

there's a thing where it's like the

05:07

doctor will see you now that like

05:08

tottenham if you're if your team is

05:10

ailing go see dr tottenham and you'll

05:12

take care of them it's almost like it's

05:13

dr leeds right so like so if you see a

05:16

team sputtering

05:18

maybe going after him but it was good i

05:19

mean it was up and down i thought leeds

05:21

played their part i mean leeds always

05:23

are entertaining if even if they lose

05:25

but i i do i do want to keep the the

05:27

united juxtapositions are one of the

05:29

things i kept thinking was like

05:31

the win that all they got for spurs is

05:33

now like how the [ __ ] did you lose

05:36

well no when we talk about it as

05:38

cristiano ronaldo tottenham legend right

05:40

because what ended up happening is

05:43

you know we had that episode where we

05:44

said the sword of damocles and one of

05:45

these men will fall

05:47

and uh and and it ended up being nuno

05:50

right and that actually saved spurs's

05:53

ass like that's what i'm saying here's

05:55

the thing now you can think about it

05:57

thank god nuno played that badly because

05:59

you wouldn't have kante exactly kante

06:01

would be now you do

06:02

right and thank god and i what i don't

06:06

understand is one of these things that

06:07

drives me nuts is this

06:09

i get the dna thing like oh kante is not

06:12

a united guy and this guy is and i find

06:15

that to be complete and utter total

06:17

[ __ ] i think it's

06:19

i think the

06:21

the

06:23

the coach has to come in

06:25

and stamp

06:28

his identity his identity within the

06:30

context it's really just performance

06:32

right like yeah you know oh

06:35

could could mourinho have been the

06:37

united manager yes if he spoke the right

06:40

way not saying i want to blow it all up

06:42

or i want to burn it all down or or van

06:45

gaal being

06:46

it's it's whether you're

06:48

whether you're iconoclastic and want to

06:50

be bigger than a club i don't get the

06:52

sense that kante wants to be bigger than

06:54

clubs he just wants them to spend and

06:56

he's gone to places that don't spend

06:58

right like he's or maybe i don't know

07:00

kante well enough no i mean look

07:03

the the rap that i got on him from when

07:06

he was leaving chelsea is that like he

07:08

kept complaining about

07:10

more money more money more money and it

07:12

was like hey man

07:13

that's not really what they do there

07:15

they give you what you need right and so

07:18

um

07:19

that was what sort of turned me off to

07:21

the conte at the end aside from the fact

07:22

that he he won there and i hated chelsea

07:25

not not past tense hate chelsea but

07:28

in the second season they did win the fa

07:30

cup right that's correct yeah so i

07:32

always think of that season as a failure

07:34

what was the league and then the fa cup

07:35

the next year right yeah yeah so but i

07:38

think you know i i do i think the united

07:40

thing looming and then kante and seeing

07:43

it happen and seeing what happened with

07:46

united and i mean i don't know how

07:48

in-depth he went against watching

07:50

wofford

07:51

but

07:52

wofford beat the [ __ ] out of united it

07:55

was a

07:56

it was a down tools performance it was a

08:00

holy [ __ ]

08:01

this is really really bad like

08:04

no reaction not in the second half

08:07

nothing and that was it it was it was

08:10

over we finally have the sword drop and

08:12

again united

08:14

bungles this by waiting like yeah and it

08:17

doesn't seem that they have any plan

08:19

well the weird thing is it's almost like

08:21

they that that interview that came out

08:23

too

08:24

it was very strange because i felt never

08:27

seen that that's pathetic me neither me

08:29

neither but it also felt like they did

08:31

it before the game didn't they

08:33

yeah but let's take a step back so so

08:35

olay they have the performance they come

08:37

out from the break united are terrible

08:39

there's just nothing there i do want to

08:40

give a shout out to tanganga i was happy

08:42

to see him anyway he was still good he

08:44

almost got sent off but he was fine

08:46

maguire was terrible again seven minutes

08:48

second half two yellows boom boom gone

08:50

uh the front three at watford of sar

08:54

um

08:55

of tsar dennis and and and josh king

08:58

really really good they made him look

09:00

like

09:01

monet sal and firmino it was like what

09:03

the [ __ ] what is united doing anyway we

09:07

know he's bad so they fire olleh but

09:09

they keep all his coaches who are

09:11

equally as bad

09:12

so that's weird so it's it's carrick

09:15

feeling and by the way let's stop there

09:17

because this is how they got into this

09:19

situation in the first place when they

09:21

got rid of was it it was mourinho right

09:23

yeah so they got rid of mourinho they

09:25

bring in only as an interim manager he's

09:29

a guy who's got the juice he's got the

09:32

united

09:33

background and history and then rashford

09:36

puts the team on his back against i

09:38

think paris psg right in in the

09:40

champions league there was a handball

09:42

that should have never been called right

09:43

right and so there was like two or three

09:45

wild results early on and everybody's

09:47

singing only at the wheel and now

09:50

you've signed yourself up for what ended

09:52

up being what three years

09:54

of of just

09:56

just complete you know

09:58

utter

09:59

uselessness and and so mediocrity

10:03

and now you're bringing in michael

10:04

carrick

10:06

who sounds a whole lot like oleg on our

10:08

sulshar in that same interim role and

10:11

what happens if they go on a run right

10:12

now hell i'm rooting for it now because

10:14

i want to see them do their [ __ ] again

10:16

right

10:18

the the idea is that he's gonna have a

10:20

little

10:21

he's gonna have it until the season ends

10:22

right but that's exactly what they said

10:24

with olei they're gonna get drunk on on

10:26

short-term success if it comes because

10:29

they did it once they're gonna do it

10:30

again and why the real reason why i want

10:32

that is because i really don't want

10:34

pochettino in united

10:37

it's it's

10:39

i think

10:41

united will bungle it it seems to me

10:44

that there's a deep structural

10:46

damage in the team it starts at the top

10:49

the ultimate decision makers are the

10:51

glazers

10:52

it doesn't seem to me that there's

10:55

a hierarchy of a football person there

10:57

at all i think again we'll probably

11:00

we're going to touch on arsenal i think

11:02

one of the things that's interesting

11:03

when you juxtapose it with arsenal is

11:05

arsenal went through this same structure

11:07

with three or four different attempts at

11:09

football structure but they did

11:11

eventually hit on it with edu and arteta

11:15

and a couple other guys they tried with

11:16

missing but at least they tried to

11:18

modernize after wenger i think with with

11:21

with um with saf leaving

11:23

after ferguson left he literally ran the

11:25

whole team in his head he was all the

11:28

roles

11:30

came in like did you write anything down

11:32

like no i didn't write anything down

11:33

it's just all up here i'll tell you and

11:35

i'll tell you over lunch

11:37

no

11:38

now to be fair i think moyes did that at

11:40

everton he really was running it the way

11:43

that you that that ferguson ran it but i

11:46

think at united it's a little bit

11:47

different so so we have that i mean and

11:49

i think it's really hard i think you

11:51

have a

11:52

you have a multi-billion dollar business

11:54

publicly listed on the stock exchange

11:57

american owners who think they can run

11:59

it like it's the an nfl team

12:02

where you have time and you can just

12:04

kind of like take the tampa bay uh tampa

12:07

bay buccaneers and kind of go five years

12:09

sucking and then go oh look it's tom

12:11

brady oh awesome let's do that yeah

12:14

right and kind of go oh yeah that'll

12:16

work

12:17

it's that it's that fourth estate that

12:19

we talk about right in the nfl it's

12:21

owners players that's it

12:22

and television

12:24

this

12:25

the idea of fans having that that that

12:28

cudgel to bait you over the head with is

12:31

just

12:32

americans just don't get it we're just

12:33

like

12:34

what do you mean we have to win

12:36

what do you mean we hit the revenue

12:38

number

12:39

what what's the problem yeah because you

12:41

didn't do it right you have to

12:44

this other estate is here that you have

12:46

to please and they kept ola for that

12:49

estate and now they're going to have to

12:50

try and navigate some

12:53

method of

12:56

they're still playing like pr management

12:59

with how they pick a manager it's kind

13:01

of a disaster

13:03

well that's what i mean i

13:04

think i'm rooting for it

13:06

to our think even you as a city fan

13:08

can't you find it in your cold black

13:10

heart to root for a little bit of

13:12

short-term success so that it ultimately

13:14

torpedoes the next two years for united

13:18

here's what i know

13:21

teams that are well run

13:23

beat

13:24

teams that are not

13:26

right and united are not well run no

13:28

matter what they do whether they get

13:30

pochettino whether they get [ __ ]

13:33

bill shankly

13:34

they're not gonna be good or build uh

13:36

nicholson it doesn't matter who they

13:38

have they will fail they're just i think

13:40

unless they just spend over the top and

13:42

go crazy well sure

13:44

i don't necessarily agree because

13:46

despite the fact that they're

13:48

dysfunctional despite the fact that they

13:49

don't play together and by the way bruno

13:51

is sort of being found out this year um

13:55

i do think they're still just a declan

13:57

rice away from being the best team in

13:59

the in the country

14:01

so i think they're one good position

14:02

player away

14:04

and a good coach of course sure

14:06

well i mean i'd listen if you bring in

14:07

ten hogs if you bring in pochettino if

14:09

you're bringing sudan who i know doesn't

14:10

want the job but like if you bring one

14:12

of those players

14:13

he's gonna look at the fine but he's

14:15

gonna look at the team and go

14:17

yeah there's a huge [ __ ] hole right

14:19

in the number six giant gaping hole how

14:21

about we go get declan rice how about we

14:23

go get somebody else right like if if

14:25

they go in and they say oh i have

14:28

effectively unlimited funds as

14:29

manchester united's coach i don't need

14:31

them i just need one really good player

14:33

65 70 million dollars

14:35

done

14:36

they're going to be in the title i think

14:38

i think you're right i think

14:41

yeah i think you're right i mean i had

14:43

said it a million times i was like this

14:45

is the best team in the country

14:47

and they're terrible

14:49

because they're not coached at all right

14:51

they'll be so much they'll be so happy

14:53

once they have a coach like oh my god

14:55

look what's happening

14:56

i do want to talk about teams that do

14:58

have good coaching

14:59

um

15:00

i do there there there was thing you

15:02

know we had we had liverpool versus

15:04

arsenal and i think we thought that

15:06

arteta might be a good coach and this

15:08

was one of those

15:10

litmus test games for arsenal and

15:13

they

15:14

failed but not too badly it wasn't a

15:17

oh they need to go back to the zero they

15:20

had a way they wanted to play they did

15:22

try and play it they showed some

15:24

resiliency they had ramsdale make a

15:27

bunch of saves

15:30

and then

15:31

arteta and klopp got into a

15:35

pretty high quality on the touchline

15:37

spat where they're yelling at each other

15:40

uh arteta literally jumped in the air

15:42

and was pushed back so it was a quality

15:44

one

15:46

but it was at anfield

15:49

and that ginned up the crowd

15:52

which ginned up liverpool and then

15:55

from the half hour mark to the end of

15:58

the game

15:59

arsenal felt the full wrath of

16:03

liverpool

16:04

at home

16:05

angry yep and they got the doors they

16:07

got the doors blown off them yeah

16:09

i have uh

16:11

if you listen to the show i have been

16:12

banging on arsenal and saying fade them

16:14

fade them fade them they're pretenders

16:15

they're not that good this was the game

16:17

to make all of my money back

16:20

uh

16:20

i didn't bet it because i moved this

16:23

weekend and had completely forgotten uh

16:25

until after kickoff which i was very

16:27

upset about but yeah um

16:29

let me

16:30

let me yeah but you wouldn't you

16:32

wouldn't have said four

16:33

i would have said if it was one and a

16:35

half i would have said smash liverpool

16:37

um

16:38

but

16:39

um

16:40

let me take my foot off the hate arsenal

16:43

gas for a second

16:44

i

16:45

don't think

16:47

they're they're certainly not as bad as

16:49

it as a four nil score line no looks no

16:52

essentially especially like you said at

16:53

anfield where arsenal will be defined

16:56

like many teams in this middling part of

17:00

the of the table against wolves

17:02

it's well yeah but that's but that's

17:04

december 28th it's the

17:07

the

17:08

holiday fixture festive

17:11

festival period festive period jesus

17:12

christ that starts realistically on

17:15

saturday uh you're gonna have games

17:16

pretty much every three days in the

17:18

league

17:19

um this is where arsenal have had an

17:21

advantage in the last six weeks because

17:23

they haven't had any european titles or

17:26

any excuse me any european games or

17:28

titles for that more titles

17:30

thank you uh and so uh that's gonna be a

17:33

real test for them obviously like it is

17:35

with everybody else but now they're on

17:37

even footing so

17:38

newcastle at home you have to win that

17:40

game you go to old trafford what who

17:43

knows what they're gonna look like in 10

17:44

days time um and then everything is a

17:47

game that you need to win as well but

17:48

that's a way that's back up and those

17:50

are tough games

17:52

yeah i just thought i just thought i did

17:54

i just thought watching arsenal it

17:55

didn't feel the same manner of this is

17:58

pathetic this was just liverpool at 12

18:02

and as a city fan

18:04

i know what liverpool at 12 is like yeah

18:06

and it's just

18:07

these those moments when liverpool is at

18:10

their best

18:11

they're the best team in the world and

18:12

it's not close like yeah those you just

18:14

like

18:16

why i don't know what to do

18:17

yeah

18:18

they completely suffocate you now

18:20

granted some of these were

18:21

self-inflicted like i think tavares made

18:23

a couple of bad passes some of them were

18:25

just really bad but they're clinical

18:27

trent alexander arnold making passes

18:29

they're just like it's just you're just

18:31

like we're

18:32

we're [ __ ] yeah just cover the face

18:34

take body shots yeah you're just like

18:36

okay

18:37

we made three mistakes and they scored

18:39

goals on all three

18:40

and granted i didn't see any smith rowe

18:42

i didn't really feel like arsenal had

18:44

any chances but they did

18:46

suffer together and i thought that was

18:48

actually good versus some of the

18:50

previous

18:51

uh arsenal things where they just get

18:53

battered and it's like hang your head

18:55

this was like well there's finger

18:56

pointing a lot of that right so they

18:58

were okay and i think they just have to

19:00

go we're not ready this we're not here

19:02

yet and no

19:03

no and like you said

19:05

there are three teams in the league that

19:06

are and we've said that it you know a

19:08

lot on the show it's chelsea city it's

19:09

liverpool in whatever order you want um

19:12

but those are the three and then there's

19:14

the rest and and real estate and the

19:16

rest are really close together

19:18

they are yeah i mean it's a long list of

19:20

rest yeah yeah yeah and the funny thing

19:23

is i would not put united in the rest

19:25

right now now one one game later they

19:28

probably would be back in it but

19:30

the the thing i love about west ham is

19:33

that they

19:34

want to be tottenham so bad that they

19:37

even mimicked the very very brief

19:40

glimmer of hope near the top of the

19:41

table so

19:42

uh they

19:44

they struggle against wolves who are

19:46

finally getting the bounces that we saw

19:48

or we expected them to get early on um

19:52

and and they go into the model which is

19:54

always a tough game to play and they

19:56

lose one late uh to

19:59

two uh two wolves and it's something

20:02

that's been coming so i'm not really

20:03

surprised at all but yeah yeah yeah and

20:06

and i got i got respect i got a shout

20:08

out from our friend carter krishna who

20:10

just was like oh

20:12

this guy you know laurent said that

20:14

wolves are good i'm like it's just xg

20:16

against verses you know you can see it

20:18

it's just you can see it when they play

20:20

you could see the triore kind of not

20:24

finishing things you could see they had

20:25

a better way to play because that team

20:26

was always good and you know i think

20:28

that they were they were getting better

20:30

uh the whole time but uh yeah i mean

20:33

west ham's not there yet

20:35

they they don't have the consistency you

20:37

would expect that they would have had a

20:38

better result but i think that injuries

20:40

are

20:41

ibana makes a difference i don't i mean

20:43

they lose one no they didn't score

20:44

anything but i mean uh michael antonio

20:47

was flying on private jets to play for

20:49

jamaica he scored his first goal so i

20:51

mean

20:52

these are guys they're not i just i just

20:54

flew from [ __ ] sweden and i'm like

20:55

three days in and i don't know what

20:57

planet i'm on so i can't imagine where

20:59

these guys are um but and then and then

21:02

to round out our big three

21:05

one more point on wolves uh chelsea one

21:07

more yeah

21:08

uh

21:10

who's your manager of the season so far

21:12

if you had to pick one right now

21:14

and why is it bruno live the manager of

21:16

the season is more

21:18

it depends uh i think it i think

21:20

narrative will drive this a lot

21:23

i think if kante can pull

21:26

spurs into like a winning run down the

21:28

stretch sure he would be the obvious i

21:31

know but 12 games

21:36

it would be it's almost moyes again

21:38

yeah i well look i mean it's i for me

21:41

looking at the table it's moyes bruno

21:43

lodge um

21:45

and

21:46

um

21:48

uh vieira at palace

21:51

those are the three for me

21:53

oh i forgot that yeah yeah yeah

21:56

i mean pallets are just like but palace

21:58

is just like the thing the thing that

22:00

everybody has to really have

22:03

is gallagher yeah yeah well sure

22:06

but

22:07

the thing you have to remember about

22:09

crystal palace is that they didn't have

22:12

first-team players

22:14

on like

22:15

july 31st

22:17

right they had like three first-team

22:18

players they lost like 10 guys to free

22:20

agents

22:21

uh end of you know running down their

22:23

contract they didn't ha like i can't

22:25

stress this enough they didn't know who

22:27

was going to be playing for them

22:29

and so they pieced it together they got

22:32

you know they got gallagher on loan

22:33

which was a huge huge get but

22:35

a number of players came in so you know

22:37

if there was a gm of the year it's most

22:39

definitely palace and i don't think it's

22:40

close

22:41

um but but having vieira bring all those

22:44

pieces together more or less and hit the

22:46

ground running

22:47

was incredibly impressive i think this

22:49

was something so we'll take a digression

22:51

before we talk chelsea

22:53

this was something that palace had been

22:55

wanting to do with under steve parish

22:57

who's the g who's the who's the um

23:00

chairman the chairman they had taken the

23:03

investment money they had wanted to play

23:04

they had that window under uh frank

23:07

deboer he loses he goes on eight

23:10

yeah

23:11

i was excited for deboer and that didn't

23:13

go at all it doesn't work

23:16

then you bring in hodgson

23:18

he stabilizes them keeps them in the

23:20

league

23:21

everybody likes him

23:23

they keep playing under him and i think

23:25

that they sort of targeted

23:27

this season of just like hey let's let

23:30

this group run down

23:31

let's let roy finish it out we're still

23:33

in the league and i think they targeted

23:36

this whole thing i think they knew they

23:37

wanted to go attacking i think they knew

23:40

that they wanted to play

23:42

and have a team that reflected the

23:44

neighborhood in a weird way because like

23:46

all those south london kids zaha and and

23:49

and uh

23:50

and all those kids with the flare they

23:53

wanted the team to reflect the

23:55

neighborhood and i think that matters i

23:56

think there's a weird connection there

23:58

and i think vieira as much as he's a

24:01

he's an arsenal guy he sort of reflects

24:03

that as well it's an immigrant community

24:05

and i think it it made sense and i think

24:07

they they had the they had the right

24:08

target they basically have taken

24:10

find the most exciting player in the

24:12

championship buy him a year before

24:14

anyone notices and then have him on your

24:16

team right so as a

24:18

uh like find that zaha replacement two

24:21

would take two or three swings at it you

24:23

know it's almost like taking that it's

24:25

like tanking in the nba except you do it

24:27

differently you don't you don't tank you

24:29

simply get those number one draft picks

24:31

and start putting them in your pocket

24:33

speaking of which i saw ryan sessenyon

24:35

play again

24:37

oh that did

24:38

he played yesterday he played at spurs

24:41

he brought him on yeah everyone has a

24:43

chance on the conte um so that's cool uh

24:47

the the less spoken about chelsea the

24:49

better the thing i noted was they just

24:53

they just killed lester it wasn't close

24:55

yeah unless there are still sputtering

24:57

they're in that group the ball moved

24:59

fast it was like boom boom boom boom

25:01

boom boom boom boom boom that was really

25:03

shocking and then rudiger they had a

25:06

cool set piece goal

25:08

was pool of sick they just and then they

25:09

scored i think

25:12

three

25:13

late offside call goals which was before

25:15

the three so so there were at least four

25:17

or five extra goals lester's in trouble

25:19

i think as someone who's gone through

25:21

this

25:22

when your manager gets your head turned

25:25

as you say he's checked out

25:27

your team can suffer the player i think

25:30

i think we're talking about these you

25:31

know they talk about fine margins all

25:33

the time if you're not committed

25:36

you're in trouble no the margin gets

25:38

wider and

25:39

if i feel like for a guy like vardy who

25:42

you can tell

25:44

he's like jake taylor in major league

25:45

right he's just like yeah he's he's

25:47

trying to get everybody

25:49

galvanized again but when he sees

25:52

uh brendan rogers sort of start to waver

25:55

and watch even even yeah but even if

25:57

it's not like it's not whatever right

25:59

but it's even if it's not

26:01

mean or nasty it's just it just is right

26:03

it's the business right

26:05

it's too nasty it's it's organic yeah

26:08

it's just

26:09

i it's human nature you go oh you

26:11

instead of you said it about kane the

26:13

difference between harry kane in the

26:15

first half and harry kane in the second

26:16

half was not anything that you could see

26:19

on the scoresheet but it felt different

26:21

and you can say that about lester

26:23

between call it the last few years and

26:26

more or less most of this season and

26:28

it's very interesting to me that brennan

26:31

rogers is still being considered one of

26:33

the top candidates for a lot of these

26:35

jobs because

26:36

if you're united and you can't miss this

26:39

higher right you cannot hire brendan

26:41

rodgers you can't but listen if it were

26:44

last year if lester were and by the way

26:47

they're only five points a drift of

26:49

fifth place right now so fine but they

26:51

just look like hot garbage so

26:53

is that the if you're so concerned

26:56

overly concerned as you said about pr

26:58

and image and how these these things

27:00

look if you were to say that brennan

27:02

rogers is going to leave leicester in

27:03

the middle of the season and then come

27:05

to united if you're a united supporter

27:07

and actually have a friend of mine who i

27:09

was talking to today who wants brennan

27:11

rogers

27:12

i don't understand

27:14

if you're gonna if you're gonna hire

27:16

rogers hire potter

27:18

sure oh my god yeah you know what i mean

27:20

like it's this it i don't think there's

27:23

i don't think that there's a significant

27:25

difference and there's no baggage right

27:28

i think brendan rodgers is potter with

27:30

better with a better pr firm right like

27:33

i think they're as good coaches i think

27:34

they bring out the most from their

27:36

players you know i do think that potter

27:38

is at that level it just hasn't happened

27:40

yet because he hasn't had the team yet

27:42

no right well potter potter doesn't have

27:45

like you said i suppose the pr but he

27:46

didn't have the backing of a very

27:49

memorable season at liverpool and then a

27:51

few

27:52

you know basically punching above their

27:54

weight seasons at leicester and let's be

27:56

very clear every season that leicester

27:58

is in the top five i don't care

28:00

championship be damned um

28:02

they're punching well above their weight

28:04

every season brighton stays in the

28:06

premier league they're above their

28:07

weight i understand that that's nice

28:09

no no i understand that

28:12

we're saying the same thing but i'm just

28:13

saying like if you're united you put the

28:15

pr machine on to hire potter because

28:18

that's actually who you want you want

28:20

someone young who can grow with the team

28:22

now is he ready for that level probably

28:25

not but what if yeah well here's here's

28:27

a question

28:28

what we just talked about deborah and

28:30

palace right which by the way i thought

28:31

was a great hire at the time i love the

28:33

kind of football he plays and he's

28:34

probably never going to touch the

28:36

premier league yet he's never going to

28:37

touch any team again after that hire

28:39

he's flamed out at every single team

28:41

he's right even even atlanta yeah

28:45

so

28:46

yeah that's right

28:47

um

28:48

if you bring on potter

28:51

a guy who quote unquote has never done

28:53

it at the big big stages before and i

28:56

don't believe in that and i know you

28:57

don't either but um

28:59

i think this what's the leash like let's

29:02

if it gets to a really bad start let's

29:04

say which i don't think it would but how

29:07

quickly how much more quickly would the

29:08

knives come out not just for potter but

29:11

for the woodward's and i know he's

29:12

leaving but the woods

29:14

i think the issue the issue that potter

29:16

would have and this is where the

29:18

difference between the big clubs and

29:20

something like a brighton job is is he

29:23

can't walk into the room the way that

29:27

steven gerrard just did

29:28

and just be like

29:31

you've seen me on tv

29:33

you've seen me lift the [ __ ]

29:34

champions league trophy this is what i

29:36

want you to do right he can never do

29:38

that and that's what brendan rodgers is

29:41

always going to have a problem with now

29:42

tucle had no problem doing it but he

29:45

grinded he grinded his way through mines

29:48

he grinded his way through bruce

29:50

dortmund playing some of the best

29:52

football they've ever seen so he has

29:54

that level of like i put the years under

29:56

my belt you know i've done you know

29:58

pokel

29:59

potter doesn't have that and i think

30:00

that's always going to be the issue and

30:02

i think it's that gravitas piece like

30:04

like

30:05

when you're an all-time great player

30:08

and again this is where olleh all they

30:11

had it and that's kind of what kept him

30:12

in the job but gerard coming in at villa

30:16

do we have two managers that came in

30:17

right he just likes he just goes in and

30:19

he's just i got this is olay the player

30:22

comparable to steven gerrard the player

30:24

or is he ollie the player

30:26

you've said this on the show before and

30:27

i think it's a perfect analogy uh is he

30:30

aaron boone the player

30:32

he's aaron boone right yeah so well

30:35

actually but i mean

30:36

to be fair

30:38

but but he's much better he's closer to

30:40

boone than he is to gerrard right like

30:42

he's gerard

30:44

gerard is derek jeter yes

30:47

i actually made that comparison i made

30:48

that comparison before as well but so um

30:51

except as a loser well sort of a little

30:53

bit sort of but for one thing uh

30:57

but yeah i mean ole

30:59

is known for one thing

31:02

it's it's you know it's it's incredibly

31:05

you know dramatic and great and all that

31:07

stuff but it's not as if

31:10

he was the bus driver for a decade right

31:12

he was a he was a a supporting actor who

31:16

had a really really great line in an

31:17

awesome comedy movie that's what he was

31:19

right he was i mean he's he's he was

31:22

like what kevin james and one of the

31:23

decent ish out of sam you basically what

31:26

he was was a

31:28

club legend who greets you when you go

31:30

to the uh the boxes yes who ended up

31:33

getting the job like my analogy was this

31:35

the way i thought about it was it would

31:36

be as though

31:38

they did a

31:40

who wants to be the man united manager

31:42

collected all the great all like all the

31:45

uh alzheimer's day guys show up and they

31:48

did a show and he won

31:50

[Laughter]

31:52

like he beat out steve bruce for the

31:54

keys to men united he's like and ole

31:57

you are now the manchester united

32:00

manager and he's like yeah you

32:02

are the father

32:04

yeah yeah so i mean that's basically

32:06

what it is it was like a reality show

32:08

guy who gets to be the end of the job

32:10

but the contestants were all former

32:12

united players you know gary neville

32:14

drops out immediately because everyone

32:15

hates him and he's like oh at this

32:17

moment in time i'm leaving the show so

32:19

[ __ ] him uh but yeah

32:22

it's it's shocking it's shocking it's uh

32:24

it's one of these things where i'm not

32:26

sure

32:27

um

32:29

what they do but i do i do want to sort

32:31

of go to the last of my big threes is uh

32:34

our things is just another

32:37

another city performance against everton

32:39

um

32:40

this game will be remembered as the game

32:42

where

32:43

gio conselo made the greatest pass

32:45

anyone has ever seen in the history of

32:46

the world

32:50

yeah

32:52

uh right footed onto raheem sterling's

32:54

foot no problem goals

32:57

and we're there um where do you want to

33:00

go next mike yeah no i actually want to

33:02

switch gears i want to talk about that

33:04

canadian concacaf chaos we talked about

33:07

in the open because uh when we left you

33:10

last last tuesday was just after the us

33:14

had absolutely trounced mexico uh and i

33:18

he i had some words of caution because

33:20

at that point we were only halfway

33:22

through the concacaf um world cup

33:24

qualifying

33:26

the u.s was top of the table everything

33:27

was looking good but there was

33:30

danger of foot especially for a team

33:33

that was on sort of shaky footing like

33:35

the us transaction team was what we

33:37

learned was that two three days later

33:39

the us dropped points against jamaica

33:41

you already mentioned michael antonio

33:43

that son of a [ __ ]

33:44

um

33:46

the u.s drops points they are no longer

33:48

top of the table because

33:50

the canadian national team played

33:53

with

33:54

father with general winter on their side

33:57

in the most

33:59

uh frozen game that

34:01

mexico's ever played in

34:03

two nil almost another dos acero with a

34:05

late mexico gold omega 2-1 and now

34:08

canada the canadian national team is top

34:11

of concacaf with games in january coming

34:14

up where it's going to be even colder so

34:17

um i gotta say it's gonna be difficult

34:21

to knock them certainly all the way down

34:23

to one of the even the fourth spot where

34:25

you're not going to have um you know

34:27

you're gonna have to be on that playoff

34:29

so right now canada's won us two mexico

34:32

three and i believe it's panama four i'm

34:34

not looking at the table right now but

34:37

um yeah i don't know

34:39

where it goes from here

34:41

the nickname is iceteca

34:44

ice hecka nice

34:46

i love it uh so i do want to i do want

34:50

to give us some credit i mean we we both

34:52

were like

34:53

why not canada

34:55

yeah they have the best player they now

34:57

have uh jonathan david who's leading

35:00

league on scoring

35:02

from

35:03

already led a team to win the league in

35:06

liga where is he going to go next is he

35:08

the next striker to make the jump to the

35:10

champion to to the premier league

35:12

because as we said before narrative

35:14

dictates you're not a real player until

35:16

you're in the gym until you're in the

35:18

premier league which is bigger than the

35:20

champions league which is coming back

35:21

and we don't even care because these

35:23

games don't matter uh maybe for a couple

35:25

teams uh and so you know i think in the

35:28

alfonso davies thing david a team that

35:31

plays as a unit we've seen it with wales

35:34

we've seen a good coach galvanizing a

35:36

country to pull around them there's no

35:39

reason why not canada they're early

35:42

they're looking at 26 they don't care

35:43

about 22 and they're going to make it

35:46

so that's fine

35:47

so all right going back to the table i

35:49

do have it up now us on 16 us i'm sorry

35:52

canada on 16 us on 15 mexico and panama

35:56

tied on 14. now mexico's got that

35:58

difference in uh the the tiebreaker and

36:00

gold difference but what we're talking

36:01

about is a scenario a disaster scenario

36:04

where mexico could be playing for their

36:06

lives to get into the world cup which

36:07

has happened i think in both of the not

36:10

the:

36:12

cup um let me ask you this

36:15

how hot is tata martino's seat right now

36:18

hot

36:18

yeah because they don't this doesn't

36:21

happen to mexico quote-unquote right

36:23

they they are they are very much in the

36:26

chelsea

36:27

realm of things where they react and

36:30

overreact and uh not even chelsea more

36:32

more watford than chelsea right they

36:34

they change their manager more than they

36:36

change their underwear down there so

36:38

he

36:39

he should be getting close to fired yeah

36:41

it's actually that bad um i see who

36:43

they're playing in in january they may

36:46

have to they may have to appoint dean

36:47

smith for mexico okay so they have two

36:50

soft games in january coming up um but

36:53

there's three it's they're shoehorning

36:56

him again

36:57

jamaica costa rica and then a massive

37:00

game

37:01

at home i believe

37:03

against panama

37:05

uh on february 2nd

37:07

so we'll see

37:08

what that looks like then and then

37:10

conversely panama in that next structure

37:12

because this is going to go a long way

37:13

right like so

37:15

actually they have the opposite they

37:17

have costa rica then jamaica and then

37:19

mexico so if you you can envision both

37:22

of these teams get six out of six from

37:24

those first two games that is an

37:25

absolutely massive showdown uh on

37:29

february 2nd so you could be looking at

37:31

you know the the biggest game

37:33

in concacaf and ironically you're i'm

37:36

completely neglecting the fact that the

37:38

us is going to play canada three days

37:40

earlier right that's for the top of the

37:41

table but realistically

37:44

i think it's strange that there's there

37:46

it doesn't matter as much for the pots

37:48

and the groups and all that stuff if

37:50

you're in you're in right so i don't

37:52

think it matters it's just a matter of

37:54

how quickly you get in

37:56

the the real thing is it's it's like

37:59

it's like the promotion playoff being

38:01

bigger than who won the championship

38:02

right like that's kind of how i think of

38:04

it in my head yeah so

38:07

we're literally

38:08

one year out from the world cup one yeah

38:11

i know i know and and i'm starting to

38:13

get excited about it that game against

38:14

mexico really jazzed me up we're gonna

38:16

have the uh winter olympics in february

38:19

which i'm really excited about i'm

38:21

talking about that usa canada in fact we

38:24

might have usa canada in

38:26

uh in soccer and then in hockey like

38:29

three or four days back back to each

38:31

other so um

38:33

i'm our shows that week i'm gonna be

38:36

really like full on i'm gonna face paint

38:39

i'm gonna be talking some [ __ ] about

38:40

maple syrup it's gonna get wild in here

38:43

um

38:44

so yeah we had we had we had we had two

38:48

three threes yeah let's get into that

38:50

two three threes for teams that uh

38:52

shouldn't have three threes uh burnley

38:55

and

38:56

crystal palace actually i'll put these

38:57

two together because it's all the

38:58

greatest hits it's burnley crystal

39:00

palace

39:01

and then it's uh brentford and

39:04

uh newcastle the results don't matter i

39:06

don't really care all that matters is

39:08

gallagher was incredible saying maxum

39:11

man scored two goals was incredible um

39:13

ivan tony scored two goals was

39:15

incredible and then burnley was my guy

39:18

cornay just like being the black

39:21

stallion who who in this field of old

39:25

beat up junky white english players

39:28

they're not even like white horses

39:29

they're cows

39:31

right he's like he's like the herding

39:33

dog

39:34

right

39:36

yeah yeah it's like a bunch of

39:38

soot-faced

39:40

[ __ ] coal miners and there's this

39:42

beautiful exactly what mother burnley is

39:44

how have we not made a coal miner joke

39:46

about burnley and then there's this 100

39:48

40 million episodes goddammit there's

39:50

this beautiful french african who just

39:53

comes in and just gives them something

39:55

completely new completely beautiful and

39:58

scores goals that

39:59

no one on their team would ever score

40:01

ever in a million years

40:04

and then of course gallagher set up

40:06

benteke twice and been taking this one

40:08

gallagher is by far my favorite player i

40:10

can't even deal with him he's like he's

40:12

just a [ __ ] jack relish but jack

40:15

realistic [ __ ] so maybe he's actually

40:17

the new dracula the only thing i don't

40:19

love about it is that at the end of the

40:20

year he's got to go back to [ __ ]

40:22

chelsea so

40:24

maybe maybe but he won't play it chelsea

40:27

yeah that's true

40:28

so uh yeah by the way another weird

40:31

story to follow is

40:32

new castle is bottom of the table

40:35

uh norwich two wins in a row farpas win

40:38

and then dean smith got a win against

40:40

southampton by the way haas and judo for

40:42

united just putting it in here

40:44

no

40:45

no wouldn't it be bad

40:48

we fell in love with him and we were

40:51

sold snake oil i like them still and i

40:53

want to root for them i want this i want

40:54

them to stay up

40:56

that would be a disaster you know

40:58

actually now i like it

41:01

because he would cry when he beat

41:02

liverpool yeah no he would cry when he

41:04

got his [ __ ] kicked in by liverpool did

41:06

you see his he's wearing the three-piece

41:08

suit by the way it looks very oh i

41:09

didn't see that on a giant man he's

41:11

wearing he's wearing the he's no tr he's

41:13

tracksuit out three piece in is he

41:15

trippy he's triple breasted yeah yeah

41:18

he's looking good

41:19

but losing losing to norwich

41:24

so we've we now have

41:26

newcastle

41:28

bottom of the table

41:29

with the saudis in place

41:32

eddie howe in his hotel room because he

41:34

got covered

41:35

before the game

41:37

so he's got two weeks sitting in his

41:38

hotel room they did come out and attack

41:42

mac i just want to see maxim you know

41:44

say maxim just go nuts and not defend i

41:46

don't care what the hell he does as long

41:48

as he does insane things like spin

41:49

around i wanted to do a spinorama goal

41:52

that's my goal for him is to do a spin

41:54

aroma because spinoramas are cool in

41:56

every sport

41:57

including

41:58

especially in hockey oh expression

42:00

let's let's um come up with a reason

42:04

another reason to root against newcastle

42:06

if they go down they will sell say

42:09

maximum

42:11

no they won't you don't think they will

42:13

you don't think he'll stay there for a

42:14

year

42:15

no

42:16

they won't have to sell him he'll want

42:18

to leave

42:19

yes okay that's correct yep you're right

42:21

um

42:22

and

42:25

there's a chance then he goes to

42:28

you know one of the there's a chance he

42:30

goes to brighton

42:33

oh my god oh my god you would you would

42:36

you would light all of your manchester

42:37

city stuff on fire live on the job

42:41

and denounce them forever and become a

42:42

bright you would do it you would like

42:44

it'd be like a gender reveal you would

42:46

just like unzip your jacket and be a big

42:48

brighton shirt i think i think the

42:50

problem i'm having right now is

42:52

there's

42:53

too many good fun teams like the [ __ ]

42:56

part of the league you know outside of

42:57

the big three which we kind of tried to

42:59

touch on like there's these three teams

43:00

they're going to win the league then

43:02

five through

43:03

what are 12. they're

43:05

they're all really good and really

43:06

likable and it's sad that three teams

43:08

have to go down

43:10

like even burnley you're just like oh

43:12

does daichi really go down or like okay

43:15

wait wait wait wait wait is it is it

43:16

really going to be leads is it going to

43:17

be dory i'm out

43:19

burnley is likeable for burnley

43:22

because they have one good player

43:24

and we all have stockholm syndrome based

43:26

on what they usually look like and then

43:27

we go

43:28

okay well i mean that guy's great right

43:31

it's almost as if if um

43:35

uh you know rose by another name right

43:37

like uh i don't i don't subscribe to

43:40

that they are more fun than past

43:43

iterations of burnley but they can still

43:44

get [ __ ] back to the championship get

43:46

the hell out of here i'm done with burn

43:48

i'm not like okay so

43:50

if i

43:51

if i go by

43:52

my xg per 90

43:55

worst teams are norwich

43:58

newcastle watching tottenham okay but

44:00

watford have these

44:02

no not anymore tottenham

44:04

are moved up the list they're now

44:06

right in the middle of the table right

44:07

exactly where you'd expect it to be yeah

44:09

but uh arsenal arsenal are actually uh

44:13

um liverpool are the best in city these

44:15

two the three that we expect are there

44:17

and then strangely

44:19

crystal palace is in the top five for

44:21

that that's a surprise i'll keep my

44:23

keep my eye on that so norwich we think

44:26

would go down that wouldn't be a

44:27

surprise

44:28

newcastle going down they have to make

44:30

it january but they need to be in

44:32

striking distance

44:33

and then

44:34

watford they do wait to to stay up no

44:37

they don't

44:38

um

44:39

they need to be

44:40

within and this is a this is a big

44:43

number but i would say if they are right

44:45

now they're five

44:47

if they're within 10 points of 17th

44:50

place they can pull out of that

44:53

anything more is going to be tough

44:55

but 10

44:56

10 points

44:58

yeah it is but think about it in the

44:59

context of man it's if if let's say if

45:04

liverpool's chasing chelsea and on

45:06

january 1st they're 10 points behind

45:07

you're like oh my god that's a lot of

45:09

points

45:10

it is because chelsea is not going to

45:12

drop 10 points

45:14

not because liverpool have to make up 10

45:16

plus from wherever they are if newcastle

45:18

has to make up 10 plus points on leeds

45:21

or on watford that is not the same as

45:23

making up 10 points on the title

45:24

challenger so i do think that lion is

45:26

probably 10 maybe even a little bit more

45:29

but not a lot um

45:31

but yeah and especially in the context

45:33

of you're fighting for your [ __ ] life

45:35

every point matters

45:36

relative to

45:38

we're 10 points behind we're chasing

45:40

this un you know unwinnable war

45:42

essentially with chelsea or city or

45:43

whoever it is at the top of the table at

45:45

that point um yeah i mean i'm just

45:47

looking at the group here right like

45:49

norwich is a go down candidate

45:51

watford arsenal is down here but there's

45:53

no way arsenal's going down burnley's

45:55

there bill is there leads are there

45:59

i don't think villa's going down uh

46:00

speaking of where gerard had his first

46:02

game he showed the passion almost the

46:04

same way that kante does that kind of

46:05

like jump and punch what you want like

46:08

chuck does it in a in a neurotic way

46:10

uh

46:11

does it in a neurotic way i just worry

46:14

that it's gonna seem phony with gerrard

46:17

it's not

46:19

i'm not

46:20

wait till things don't

46:22

think things go a little bit sideways

46:24

not a lot two losses on the bounce

46:27

i i i i really like him i watched him

46:30

i'm not saying i don't like him i'm just

46:32

weary of

46:34

buying his all the way through

46:36

i watched all his stuff with rangers and

46:38

he

46:39

he's got the right

46:41

manner like he comes with the suit and

46:43

the tie and the jacket he's not like

46:45

he's not fly by night like he's

46:47

he's taking the intensity that he took

46:49

as a player to be the best player he

46:51

could be and he's taking that intensity

46:53

to be the best manager he can be right

46:55

like it's not

46:56

and he's not ego maniacal that he got

46:59

guys that are real managers who really

47:01

know what they're doing and to this

47:03

point of like oh wow that shows

47:05

maturity right like oh he's not afraid

47:08

he's got big personalities on his staff

47:09

that actually do stuff so and

47:12

again think about what all the things

47:14

the same the same

47:16

way the mindset i just cited about the

47:18

10-point gap

47:19

you have think about the teams you have

47:20

to beat just to stay up which

47:23

realistically is villa's goal this

47:24

season i know gerrard's gonna have

47:26

higher ambitions to get them to mid

47:27

table which you could argue is just as

47:29

likely

47:31

um as them staying up but they have to

47:34

be worse than watford leeds and burnley

47:36

basically all three of them

47:39

they're not gonna do that they're

47:40

they'll be fine

47:42

yeah i i am starting to get worried for

47:44

brentford

47:45

i don't i i don't want to be but i am

47:48

too um but again they're a team that

47:50

attacks a team that goes to play for

47:52

wins and not draws so if they lose the

47:54

next three and they win two they'll be

47:57

fine

47:57

they need to get the keeper thing right

48:00

i know because that keeper thing is

48:02

worrying me uh anything else we got

48:04

champions league city play psg

48:06

pochettino in manchester um

48:09

scary i'm not liking it uh chelsea play

48:12

yuve this is a weak uva they should have

48:14

no problem with yuve because they're so

48:16

so good they don't give up any goals

48:18

well you've one of

48:28

and that's actually a game for the top

48:29

of the group isn't it

48:31

the villa real united game i i don't

48:34

think anyone expects anything from

48:35

united but villarreal are not really

48:38

playing well in spain so

48:41

hold on it shouldn't be close

48:43

it shouldn't be close at all but well

48:45

neither should the neither should the

48:47

young boys game

48:48

right but like

48:50

we we're going to learn a little bit

48:51

about carrick because it's not a regime

48:53

change he's been there the whole time

48:55

with ole so

48:57

uh i don't know but i want to dial it

48:58

back to you and chelsea for a second i'm

49:00

looking at the table right now uv's 4-0

49:02

chelsea's three and one uh the goal

49:04

difference is plus two for yuve a

49:06

one-nil win for chelsea puts them even

49:09

uh and i don't know what the second

49:11

tiebreaker would be that goal's four so

49:12

i think uva would still have it but um

49:16

it's head to head first yeah but you've

49:18

a they'd be

49:20

even if it's aggregate right they won

49:21

one nothing so

49:22

anything

49:25

there are some permutations of this

49:26

where chelsea go ahead on goal

49:28

difference but

49:29

the point is that going into the last

49:31

match day of the of the group you would

49:33

have uve and chelsea both on 12 points

49:36

both on what would probably be a six

49:38

goal difference um so there's a lot of

49:40

different um avenues for chelsea to

49:43

to um you know kind of stamp their mark

49:46

on and get that first place in the group

49:47

which obviously is important because you

49:49

don't want to be stuck with a a stud

49:51

team uh in the round of 16. so um but

49:55

they will get through with a win or any

49:56

kind of result uh it seems

49:58

so um this united this united this

50:01

united game is massive

50:04

yeah i mean like

50:05

gigantic

50:07

for them

50:08

because they then they'll really freak

50:09

out if they if they well i mean yuva and

50:13

chelsea are through right it's just who

50:15

wins the group

50:16

uh the only ones that are up for grabs

50:18

is a [ __ ] group with redville salzburg

50:21

united villarreal atlanta they're all

50:23

they're all fighting

50:24

bayern barcelona

50:26

with jave that doesn't matter the inter

50:29

real madrid one is

50:30

still up for grabs but sheriff is not

50:32

[ __ ] whatever no not iacs are the

50:35

best team in the world that no one talks

50:37

about

50:40

um

50:40

and then city psg

50:42

they're both through but it depends on

50:45

well we talked about this during the

50:46

last champions league midweek game

50:49

whatever the [ __ ] match day um atlanta

50:51

has just as much of a chance to win that

50:53

group as united and villarreal do so um

50:57

i'm very excited to see they should take

50:59

care of business against young boys

51:00

tomorrow or or whenever the hell they

51:02

play this week and um

51:05

i think that

51:06

it all contin it's all contingent if you

51:08

remember it was like a month ago and i

51:09

was sort of getting galaxy brain i'm

51:11

like well this team puts this team but

51:12

this is pretty cool um

51:14

but uh

51:15

you're gonna have atlanta on eight so

51:17

that means in all likelihood you're

51:19

either gonna have them tied with all

51:21

with both clubs on eight or they're

51:23

going to be in second place so um

51:26

very very interesting stuff and then i

51:28

think they play

51:30

villarreal

51:31

uh yeah they play villarreal and united

51:33

in their last two games in the group so

51:35

a lot of fun of for for group f i think

51:37

that's one to watch closely

51:39

um i don't really know that there's that

51:41

much

51:42

else here like you said we ran through

51:44

it but city psg is the headliner but i

51:47

kind of don't care i don't yeah it's

51:51

it's weird i don't either uh i'm just

51:54

happy the league's back happy we had

51:56

good games happy to see gerard win happy

51:59

to have dean smith pulling things out

52:01

those were good dudes um still

52:03

fascinated by what happens with united

52:06

who the coach is going to be it's a

52:07

complete catastrophe and then kante and

52:10

what he does with spurs second half

52:12

could they

52:14

let's let's say

52:16

where what happens to them if they are

52:20

if like if the season started today

52:22

if they were top four the rest of the

52:23

way i think they could be

52:26

they're going to be absolutely tough for

52:27

the rest of the way i think uh they'll

52:30

struggle at the back

52:32

you can't have ben davies uh starting in

52:35

a back three i mean he's a good left

52:37

center back in that but like

52:38

i i think he's okay there i think as a

52:41

as a wing back enough

52:43

as a fullback

52:44

i just and romero's hurt again because

52:47

of [ __ ] international duty and i just

52:50

every time tottenham get a little bit of

52:52

momentum they plastically burst

52:54

themselves and it's just back to square

52:56

one right so you know what it's gonna be

52:58

it's gonna be

53:00

can

53:01

kante

53:02

teach

53:03

sanchez how to play football and joe

53:06

rodon i don't know where the [ __ ] he's

53:07

been but like he'll probably play this

53:09

week on thursday and i think that

53:11

in so much as everybody's got a chance

53:13

under contact you can only play 11

53:15

players so the more games you get under

53:18

him the more training sessions you get

53:19

under him the more chance of making an

53:22

impression so i think rodon's hungry i

53:25

think he wants

53:26

some of these minutes you're not going

53:28

to be able to play dire sanchez davies

53:30

the whole time you're going if if romero

53:32

is in fact out an extended period of

53:34

time which seems to be the report

53:36

joe rodon is going to play a big part in

53:38

the next six weeks so

53:40

i'm hoping that he gets his shot

53:42

all right i'm ready all right let's get

53:44

out of here all right

53:46

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53:48

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