Episode #119 - Ole Out, Canada Go Top of CONCACAF, Conte Urges Tottenham to Win
In Episode #119 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Laurent is back and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is gone after a dreadful performance in his last game managing Manchester United, a 4-1 loss to Watford. Also:
- The end is here for Ole: we say goodbye to the most-talked about person in Squeaky Bum Time history
- Premier League Contenders Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester City handle the tricky post international break fixtures.
- Arsenal show they aren't ready against Liverpool
- Canada beat Mexico to go top of CONCACAF... we told you to watch out for these guys!
- USMNT drops points against Jamaica after their big Mexico win because of course
- Tottenham come from behind against Leeds as Antonio Conte riles up the Tottenham Stadium crowd like it's White Hart Lane.
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Transcript
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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum
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time podcast it is tuesday november 23rd
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third third in this episode canadian
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concacaf chaos that's a lot of seas the
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premier league is back ola is sacked if
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i like i'm rapping we have new bandages
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your bounces everywhere there were two
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three threes but first mike
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i was excited probably more than you
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were kante
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fist bumps and is this the best
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half that spurs has played since
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pochettino
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so the the quick paid answer is yes the
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actual answer the not fun one is
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mourinho it was the first few weeks of
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mourinho i was there and it was [ __ ]
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fabulous also the six three was good the
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six one whatever it was was good well
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yeah but that was more about united
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playing like garbage and then oh you
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mean they've been they've been terrible
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for a long time and no one noticed
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yeah yeah um
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no and the thing that it reminded me of
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was the last season at white hart lane
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with like that's the quick bait answer
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you're looking for right like where like
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kane is flying and the goals are going
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in left and right and i i mean they only
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won two to one but they could have had
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five right so um
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was that three posts they hit in the
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second half
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yeah i just thought it was one of these
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things where the narrative was
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spurs were playing how they had been
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this kind of like how do we play what do
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we do
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there's three at the back i uh where's
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this guy supposed to be
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maura was doing his running i thought
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regulon was good
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i thought he was really bad but he was
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just it was just a function that he was
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taking a lot of risks and sort of paying
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for a lot of them um but he ends up
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being in the right place at the right
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time and scores the winner so i thought
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it was nice to see winks i think winks
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will be one of those players who can be
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coached and will take on what the coach
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says so he'll play so he'll be a kante
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guy and kante will say
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[ __ ] dumbley you don't [ __ ] listen
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i'm gonna go with this [ __ ] who
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doesn't do [ __ ] but at least he does
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what i ask him to and i'm gonna ask him
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to pass forward and he's going to pass
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forward anyways it's important well
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let's stop there for a second it's
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important to have winks in the side and
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in in contention for places because
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what you need out of him is to build up
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his confidence back right like he he's
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shattered mason tried a little bit after
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mourinho but it just never worked under
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nuno and now you've got a kid who's not
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kid anymore but like you've got a guy
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who's essentially just
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useless in his own body because he he
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can't string a pass together it's almost
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like he's got the yips so
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what kante is doing is two things a
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reacting to a
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alarming lack of depth in the midfield b
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he's he's saying in don belay you're
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like like i've been saying for years
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[ __ ] you dude you've got all the talent
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the world and you got a 10 cent head
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like you don't care
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so i'm not going to play you um but what
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i liked was was the return the first
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half looked like spurs the second half
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looked like
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kante was like
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not
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[ __ ] today
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not today is this [ __ ] happening he
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put he had the jacket he didn't have the
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jacket on he puts the jacket on so
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jacket first step he's ginning up the
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[ __ ] crowd he has had it he either
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and and and should they have played that
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way in the first half i thought it was a
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great juxtaposition
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against ole where
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all they just never got anything out of
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united
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and in this one instance you see the
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difference between a coach and not a
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coach right when united would come back
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it wasn't because all they did anything
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it was because the united players were
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like [ __ ] we got to come back you never
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saw ola get mad you never saw him yell
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you never saw him do anything with kante
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he's got [ __ ] an extra
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half a percent out of white heart lane
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he literally
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pushed them on and it worked and i saw
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the two times it's working
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the two types of work this year was the
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first game against city where it wasn't
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anything to do with nuno it was
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coincidentally his first game but it was
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it was the
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um
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tottenham versus the world mentality
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especially with city coming in the whole
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cane narrative all that yeah but this
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was sort of a
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we we need our club back right i mean it
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wasn't the first game with with kante
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but it was the first winnable game which
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all narrative aside for a second leads
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in the second half we're gonna get into
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best bets a little bit later on i guess
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or maybe on thursday or whatever
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bet against leeds in the second half
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holy [ __ ] not only do they play in
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aggressive style so that leaves them
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open at the back
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they have the most goals against in the
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second half against of any team in the
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premier league
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and they're just bad
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on defense right and and spurs we've
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talked about spurs being just
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stuck in neutral for months now
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basically
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going well back into last season and
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this
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is the team that shredded you now
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granted they do have all the talent in
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the world but sunny and kane and and
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others but really
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so leads
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there's a thing where it's like the
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doctor will see you now that like
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tottenham if you're if your team is
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ailing go see dr tottenham and you'll
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take care of them it's almost like it's
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dr leeds right so like so if you see a
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team sputtering
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maybe going after him but it was good i
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mean it was up and down i thought leeds
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played their part i mean leeds always
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are entertaining if even if they lose
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but i i do i do want to keep the the
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united juxtapositions are one of the
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things i kept thinking was like
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the win that all they got for spurs is
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now like how the [ __ ] did you lose
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well no when we talk about it as
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cristiano ronaldo tottenham legend right
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because what ended up happening is
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you know we had that episode where we
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said the sword of damocles and one of
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these men will fall
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and uh and and it ended up being nuno
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right and that actually saved spurs's
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ass like that's what i'm saying here's
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the thing now you can think about it
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thank god nuno played that badly because
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you wouldn't have kante exactly kante
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would be now you do
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right and thank god and i what i don't
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understand is one of these things that
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drives me nuts is this
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i get the dna thing like oh kante is not
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a united guy and this guy is and i find
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that to be complete and utter total
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[ __ ] i think it's
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i think the
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the
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the coach has to come in
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and stamp
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his identity his identity within the
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context it's really just performance
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right like yeah you know oh
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could could mourinho have been the
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united manager yes if he spoke the right
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way not saying i want to blow it all up
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or i want to burn it all down or or van
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gaal being
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it's it's whether you're
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whether you're iconoclastic and want to
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be bigger than a club i don't get the
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sense that kante wants to be bigger than
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clubs he just wants them to spend and
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he's gone to places that don't spend
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right like he's or maybe i don't know
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kante well enough no i mean look
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the the rap that i got on him from when
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he was leaving chelsea is that like he
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kept complaining about
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more money more money more money and it
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was like hey man
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that's not really what they do there
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they give you what you need right and so
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um
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that was what sort of turned me off to
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the conte at the end aside from the fact
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that he he won there and i hated chelsea
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not not past tense hate chelsea but
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in the second season they did win the fa
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cup right that's correct yeah so i
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always think of that season as a failure
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what was the league and then the fa cup
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the next year right yeah yeah so but i
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think you know i i do i think the united
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thing looming and then kante and seeing
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it happen and seeing what happened with
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united and i mean i don't know how
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in-depth he went against watching
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wofford
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but
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wofford beat the [ __ ] out of united it
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was a
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it was a down tools performance it was a
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holy [ __ ]
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this is really really bad like
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no reaction not in the second half
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nothing and that was it it was it was
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over we finally have the sword drop and
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again united
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bungles this by waiting like yeah and it
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doesn't seem that they have any plan
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well the weird thing is it's almost like
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they that that interview that came out
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too
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it was very strange because i felt never
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seen that that's pathetic me neither me
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neither but it also felt like they did
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it before the game didn't they
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yeah but let's take a step back so so
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olay they have the performance they come
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out from the break united are terrible
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there's just nothing there i do want to
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give a shout out to tanganga i was happy
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to see him anyway he was still good he
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almost got sent off but he was fine
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maguire was terrible again seven minutes
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second half two yellows boom boom gone
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uh the front three at watford of sar
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um
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of tsar dennis and and and josh king
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really really good they made him look
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like
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monet sal and firmino it was like what
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the [ __ ] what is united doing anyway we
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know he's bad so they fire olleh but
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they keep all his coaches who are
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equally as bad
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so that's weird so it's it's carrick
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feeling and by the way let's stop there
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because this is how they got into this
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situation in the first place when they
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got rid of was it it was mourinho right
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yeah so they got rid of mourinho they
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bring in only as an interim manager he's
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a guy who's got the juice he's got the
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united
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background and history and then rashford
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puts the team on his back against i
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think paris psg right in in the
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champions league there was a handball
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that should have never been called right
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right and so there was like two or three
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wild results early on and everybody's
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singing only at the wheel and now
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you've signed yourself up for what ended
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up being what three years
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of of just
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just complete you know
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utter
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uselessness and and so mediocrity
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and now you're bringing in michael
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carrick
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who sounds a whole lot like oleg on our
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sulshar in that same interim role and
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what happens if they go on a run right
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now hell i'm rooting for it now because
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i want to see them do their [ __ ] again
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right
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the the idea is that he's gonna have a
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little
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he's gonna have it until the season ends
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right but that's exactly what they said
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with olei they're gonna get drunk on on
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short-term success if it comes because
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they did it once they're gonna do it
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again and why the real reason why i want
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that is because i really don't want
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pochettino in united
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it's it's
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i think
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united will bungle it it seems to me
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that there's a deep structural
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damage in the team it starts at the top
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the ultimate decision makers are the
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glazers
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it doesn't seem to me that there's
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a hierarchy of a football person there
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at all i think again we'll probably
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we're going to touch on arsenal i think
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one of the things that's interesting
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when you juxtapose it with arsenal is
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arsenal went through this same structure
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with three or four different attempts at
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football structure but they did
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eventually hit on it with edu and arteta
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and a couple other guys they tried with
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missing but at least they tried to
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modernize after wenger i think with with
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with um with saf leaving
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after ferguson left he literally ran the
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whole team in his head he was all the
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roles
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came in like did you write anything down
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like no i didn't write anything down
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it's just all up here i'll tell you and
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i'll tell you over lunch
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no
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now to be fair i think moyes did that at
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everton he really was running it the way
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that you that that ferguson ran it but i
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think at united it's a little bit
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different so so we have that i mean and
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i think it's really hard i think you
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have a
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you have a multi-billion dollar business
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publicly listed on the stock exchange
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american owners who think they can run
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it like it's the an nfl team
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where you have time and you can just
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kind of like take the tampa bay uh tampa
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bay buccaneers and kind of go five years
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sucking and then go oh look it's tom
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brady oh awesome let's do that yeah
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right and kind of go oh yeah that'll
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work
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it's that it's that fourth estate that
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we talk about right in the nfl it's
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owners players that's it
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and television
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this
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the idea of fans having that that that
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cudgel to bait you over the head with is
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just
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americans just don't get it we're just
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like
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what do you mean we have to win
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what do you mean we hit the revenue
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number
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what what's the problem yeah because you
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didn't do it right you have to
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this other estate is here that you have
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to please and they kept ola for that
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estate and now they're going to have to
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try and navigate some
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method of
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they're still playing like pr management
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with how they pick a manager it's kind
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of a disaster
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well that's what i mean i
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think i'm rooting for it
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to our think even you as a city fan
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can't you find it in your cold black
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heart to root for a little bit of
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short-term success so that it ultimately
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torpedoes the next two years for united
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here's what i know
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teams that are well run
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beat
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teams that are not
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right and united are not well run no
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matter what they do whether they get
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pochettino whether they get [ __ ]
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bill shankly
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they're not gonna be good or build uh
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nicholson it doesn't matter who they
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have they will fail they're just i think
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unless they just spend over the top and
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go crazy well sure
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i don't necessarily agree because
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despite the fact that they're
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dysfunctional despite the fact that they
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don't play together and by the way bruno
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is sort of being found out this year um
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i do think they're still just a declan
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rice away from being the best team in
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the in the country
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so i think they're one good position
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player away
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and a good coach of course sure
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well i mean i'd listen if you bring in
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ten hogs if you bring in pochettino if
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you're bringing sudan who i know doesn't
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want the job but like if you bring one
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of those players
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he's gonna look at the fine but he's
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gonna look at the team and go
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yeah there's a huge [ __ ] hole right
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in the number six giant gaping hole how
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about we go get declan rice how about we
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go get somebody else right like if if
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they go in and they say oh i have
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effectively unlimited funds as
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manchester united's coach i don't need
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them i just need one really good player
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65 70 million dollars
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done
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they're going to be in the title i think
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i think you're right i think
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yeah i think you're right i mean i had
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said it a million times i was like this
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is the best team in the country
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and they're terrible
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because they're not coached at all right
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they'll be so much they'll be so happy
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once they have a coach like oh my god
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look what's happening
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i do want to talk about teams that do
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have good coaching
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um
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i do there there there was thing you
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know we had we had liverpool versus
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arsenal and i think we thought that
15:06
arteta might be a good coach and this
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was one of those
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litmus test games for arsenal and
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they
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failed but not too badly it wasn't a
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oh they need to go back to the zero they
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had a way they wanted to play they did
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try and play it they showed some
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resiliency they had ramsdale make a
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bunch of saves
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and then
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arteta and klopp got into a
15:35
pretty high quality on the touchline
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spat where they're yelling at each other
15:40
uh arteta literally jumped in the air
15:42
and was pushed back so it was a quality
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one
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but it was at anfield
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and that ginned up the crowd
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which ginned up liverpool and then
15:55
from the half hour mark to the end of
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the game
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arsenal felt the full wrath of
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liverpool
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at home
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angry yep and they got the doors they
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got the doors blown off them yeah
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i have uh
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if you listen to the show i have been
16:12
banging on arsenal and saying fade them
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fade them fade them they're pretenders
16:15
they're not that good this was the game
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to make all of my money back
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uh
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i didn't bet it because i moved this
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weekend and had completely forgotten uh
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until after kickoff which i was very
16:27
upset about but yeah um
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let me
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let me yeah but you wouldn't you
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wouldn't have said four
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i would have said if it was one and a
16:35
half i would have said smash liverpool
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um
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but
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um
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let me take my foot off the hate arsenal
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gas for a second
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i
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don't think
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they're they're certainly not as bad as
16:49
it as a four nil score line no looks no
16:52
essentially especially like you said at
16:53
anfield where arsenal will be defined
16:56
like many teams in this middling part of
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the of the table against wolves
17:02
it's well yeah but that's but that's
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december 28th it's the
17:07
the
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holiday fixture festive
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festival period festive period jesus
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christ that starts realistically on
17:15
saturday uh you're gonna have games
17:16
pretty much every three days in the
17:18
league
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um this is where arsenal have had an
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advantage in the last six weeks because
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they haven't had any european titles or
17:26
any excuse me any european games or
17:28
titles for that more titles
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thank you uh and so uh that's gonna be a
17:33
real test for them obviously like it is
17:35
with everybody else but now they're on
17:37
even footing so
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newcastle at home you have to win that
17:40
game you go to old trafford what who
17:43
knows what they're gonna look like in 10
17:44
days time um and then everything is a
17:47
game that you need to win as well but
17:48
that's a way that's back up and those
17:50
are tough games
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yeah i just thought i just thought i did
17:54
i just thought watching arsenal it
17:55
didn't feel the same manner of this is
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pathetic this was just liverpool at 12
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and as a city fan
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i know what liverpool at 12 is like yeah
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and it's just
18:07
these those moments when liverpool is at
18:10
their best
18:11
they're the best team in the world and
18:12
it's not close like yeah those you just
18:14
like
18:16
why i don't know what to do
18:17
yeah
18:18
they completely suffocate you now
18:20
granted some of these were
18:21
self-inflicted like i think tavares made
18:23
a couple of bad passes some of them were
18:25
just really bad but they're clinical
18:27
trent alexander arnold making passes
18:29
they're just like it's just you're just
18:31
like we're
18:32
we're [ __ ] yeah just cover the face
18:34
take body shots yeah you're just like
18:36
okay
18:37
we made three mistakes and they scored
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goals on all three
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and granted i didn't see any smith rowe
18:42
i didn't really feel like arsenal had
18:44
any chances but they did
18:46
suffer together and i thought that was
18:48
actually good versus some of the
18:50
previous
18:51
uh arsenal things where they just get
18:53
battered and it's like hang your head
18:55
this was like well there's finger
18:56
pointing a lot of that right so they
18:58
were okay and i think they just have to
19:00
go we're not ready this we're not here
19:02
yet and no
19:03
no and like you said
19:05
there are three teams in the league that
19:06
are and we've said that it you know a
19:08
lot on the show it's chelsea city it's
19:09
liverpool in whatever order you want um
19:12
but those are the three and then there's
19:14
the rest and and real estate and the
19:16
rest are really close together
19:18
they are yeah i mean it's a long list of
19:20
rest yeah yeah yeah and the funny thing
19:23
is i would not put united in the rest
19:25
right now now one one game later they
19:28
probably would be back in it but
19:30
the the thing i love about west ham is
19:33
that they
19:34
want to be tottenham so bad that they
19:37
even mimicked the very very brief
19:40
glimmer of hope near the top of the
19:41
table so
19:42
uh they
19:44
they struggle against wolves who are
19:46
finally getting the bounces that we saw
19:48
or we expected them to get early on um
19:52
and and they go into the model which is
19:54
always a tough game to play and they
19:56
lose one late uh to
19:59
two uh two wolves and it's something
20:02
that's been coming so i'm not really
20:03
surprised at all but yeah yeah yeah and
20:06
and i got i got respect i got a shout
20:08
out from our friend carter krishna who
20:10
just was like oh
20:12
this guy you know laurent said that
20:14
wolves are good i'm like it's just xg
20:16
against verses you know you can see it
20:18
it's just you can see it when they play
20:20
you could see the triore kind of not
20:24
finishing things you could see they had
20:25
a better way to play because that team
20:26
was always good and you know i think
20:28
that they were they were getting better
20:30
uh the whole time but uh yeah i mean
20:33
west ham's not there yet
20:35
they they don't have the consistency you
20:37
would expect that they would have had a
20:38
better result but i think that injuries
20:40
are
20:41
ibana makes a difference i don't i mean
20:43
they lose one no they didn't score
20:44
anything but i mean uh michael antonio
20:47
was flying on private jets to play for
20:49
jamaica he scored his first goal so i
20:51
mean
20:52
these are guys they're not i just i just
20:54
flew from [ __ ] sweden and i'm like
20:55
three days in and i don't know what
20:57
planet i'm on so i can't imagine where
20:59
these guys are um but and then and then
21:02
to round out our big three
21:05
one more point on wolves uh chelsea one
21:07
more yeah
21:08
uh
21:10
who's your manager of the season so far
21:12
if you had to pick one right now
21:14
and why is it bruno live the manager of
21:16
the season is more
21:18
it depends uh i think it i think
21:20
narrative will drive this a lot
21:23
i think if kante can pull
21:26
spurs into like a winning run down the
21:28
stretch sure he would be the obvious i
21:31
know but 12 games
21:36
it would be it's almost moyes again
21:38
yeah i well look i mean it's i for me
21:41
looking at the table it's moyes bruno
21:43
lodge um
21:45
and
21:46
um
21:48
uh vieira at palace
21:51
those are the three for me
21:53
oh i forgot that yeah yeah yeah
21:56
i mean pallets are just like but palace
21:58
is just like the thing the thing that
22:00
everybody has to really have
22:03
is gallagher yeah yeah well sure
22:06
but
22:07
the thing you have to remember about
22:09
crystal palace is that they didn't have
22:12
first-team players
22:14
on like
22:15
july 31st
22:17
right they had like three first-team
22:18
players they lost like 10 guys to free
22:20
agents
22:21
uh end of you know running down their
22:23
contract they didn't ha like i can't
22:25
stress this enough they didn't know who
22:27
was going to be playing for them
22:29
and so they pieced it together they got
22:32
you know they got gallagher on loan
22:33
which was a huge huge get but
22:35
a number of players came in so you know
22:37
if there was a gm of the year it's most
22:39
definitely palace and i don't think it's
22:40
close
22:41
um but but having vieira bring all those
22:44
pieces together more or less and hit the
22:46
ground running
22:47
was incredibly impressive i think this
22:49
was something so we'll take a digression
22:51
before we talk chelsea
22:53
this was something that palace had been
22:55
wanting to do with under steve parish
22:57
who's the g who's the who's the um
23:00
chairman the chairman they had taken the
23:03
investment money they had wanted to play
23:04
they had that window under uh frank
23:07
deboer he loses he goes on eight
23:10
yeah
23:11
i was excited for deboer and that didn't
23:13
go at all it doesn't work
23:16
then you bring in hodgson
23:18
he stabilizes them keeps them in the
23:20
league
23:21
everybody likes him
23:23
they keep playing under him and i think
23:25
that they sort of targeted
23:27
this season of just like hey let's let
23:30
this group run down
23:31
let's let roy finish it out we're still
23:33
in the league and i think they targeted
23:36
this whole thing i think they knew they
23:37
wanted to go attacking i think they knew
23:40
that they wanted to play
23:42
and have a team that reflected the
23:44
neighborhood in a weird way because like
23:46
all those south london kids zaha and and
23:49
and uh
23:50
and all those kids with the flare they
23:53
wanted the team to reflect the
23:55
neighborhood and i think that matters i
23:56
think there's a weird connection there
23:58
and i think vieira as much as he's a
24:01
he's an arsenal guy he sort of reflects
24:03
that as well it's an immigrant community
24:05
and i think it it made sense and i think
24:07
they they had the they had the right
24:08
target they basically have taken
24:10
find the most exciting player in the
24:12
championship buy him a year before
24:14
anyone notices and then have him on your
24:16
team right so as a
24:18
uh like find that zaha replacement two
24:21
would take two or three swings at it you
24:23
know it's almost like taking that it's
24:25
like tanking in the nba except you do it
24:27
differently you don't you don't tank you
24:29
simply get those number one draft picks
24:31
and start putting them in your pocket
24:33
speaking of which i saw ryan sessenyon
24:35
play again
24:37
oh that did
24:38
he played yesterday he played at spurs
24:41
he brought him on yeah everyone has a
24:43
chance on the conte um so that's cool uh
24:47
the the less spoken about chelsea the
24:49
better the thing i noted was they just
24:53
they just killed lester it wasn't close
24:55
yeah unless there are still sputtering
24:57
they're in that group the ball moved
24:59
fast it was like boom boom boom boom
25:01
boom boom boom boom boom that was really
25:03
shocking and then rudiger they had a
25:06
cool set piece goal
25:08
was pool of sick they just and then they
25:09
scored i think
25:12
three
25:13
late offside call goals which was before
25:15
the three so so there were at least four
25:17
or five extra goals lester's in trouble
25:19
i think as someone who's gone through
25:21
this
25:22
when your manager gets your head turned
25:25
as you say he's checked out
25:27
your team can suffer the player i think
25:30
i think we're talking about these you
25:31
know they talk about fine margins all
25:33
the time if you're not committed
25:36
you're in trouble no the margin gets
25:38
wider and
25:39
if i feel like for a guy like vardy who
25:42
you can tell
25:44
he's like jake taylor in major league
25:45
right he's just like yeah he's he's
25:47
trying to get everybody
25:49
galvanized again but when he sees
25:52
uh brendan rogers sort of start to waver
25:55
and watch even even yeah but even if
25:57
it's not like it's not whatever right
25:59
but it's even if it's not
26:01
mean or nasty it's just it just is right
26:03
it's the business right
26:05
it's too nasty it's it's organic yeah
26:08
it's just
26:09
i it's human nature you go oh you
26:11
instead of you said it about kane the
26:13
difference between harry kane in the
26:15
first half and harry kane in the second
26:16
half was not anything that you could see
26:19
on the scoresheet but it felt different
26:21
and you can say that about lester
26:23
between call it the last few years and
26:26
more or less most of this season and
26:28
it's very interesting to me that brennan
26:31
rogers is still being considered one of
26:33
the top candidates for a lot of these
26:35
jobs because
26:36
if you're united and you can't miss this
26:39
higher right you cannot hire brendan
26:41
rodgers you can't but listen if it were
26:44
last year if lester were and by the way
26:47
they're only five points a drift of
26:49
fifth place right now so fine but they
26:51
just look like hot garbage so
26:53
is that the if you're so concerned
26:56
overly concerned as you said about pr
26:58
and image and how these these things
27:00
look if you were to say that brennan
27:02
rogers is going to leave leicester in
27:03
the middle of the season and then come
27:05
to united if you're a united supporter
27:07
and actually have a friend of mine who i
27:09
was talking to today who wants brennan
27:11
rogers
27:12
i don't understand
27:14
if you're gonna if you're gonna hire
27:16
rogers hire potter
27:18
sure oh my god yeah you know what i mean
27:20
like it's this it i don't think there's
27:23
i don't think that there's a significant
27:25
difference and there's no baggage right
27:28
i think brendan rodgers is potter with
27:30
better with a better pr firm right like
27:33
i think they're as good coaches i think
27:34
they bring out the most from their
27:36
players you know i do think that potter
27:38
is at that level it just hasn't happened
27:40
yet because he hasn't had the team yet
27:42
no right well potter potter doesn't have
27:45
like you said i suppose the pr but he
27:46
didn't have the backing of a very
27:49
memorable season at liverpool and then a
27:51
few
27:52
you know basically punching above their
27:54
weight seasons at leicester and let's be
27:56
very clear every season that leicester
27:58
is in the top five i don't care
28:00
championship be damned um
28:02
they're punching well above their weight
28:04
every season brighton stays in the
28:06
premier league they're above their
28:07
weight i understand that that's nice
28:09
no no i understand that
28:12
we're saying the same thing but i'm just
28:13
saying like if you're united you put the
28:15
pr machine on to hire potter because
28:18
that's actually who you want you want
28:20
someone young who can grow with the team
28:22
now is he ready for that level probably
28:25
not but what if yeah well here's here's
28:27
a question
28:28
what we just talked about deborah and
28:30
palace right which by the way i thought
28:31
was a great hire at the time i love the
28:33
kind of football he plays and he's
28:34
probably never going to touch the
28:36
premier league yet he's never going to
28:37
touch any team again after that hire
28:39
he's flamed out at every single team
28:41
he's right even even atlanta yeah
28:45
so
28:46
yeah that's right
28:47
um
28:48
if you bring on potter
28:51
a guy who quote unquote has never done
28:53
it at the big big stages before and i
28:56
don't believe in that and i know you
28:57
don't either but um
28:59
i think this what's the leash like let's
29:02
if it gets to a really bad start let's
29:04
say which i don't think it would but how
29:07
quickly how much more quickly would the
29:08
knives come out not just for potter but
29:11
for the woodward's and i know he's
29:12
leaving but the woods
29:14
i think the issue the issue that potter
29:16
would have and this is where the
29:18
difference between the big clubs and
29:20
something like a brighton job is is he
29:23
can't walk into the room the way that
29:27
steven gerrard just did
29:28
and just be like
29:31
you've seen me on tv
29:33
you've seen me lift the [ __ ]
29:34
champions league trophy this is what i
29:36
want you to do right he can never do
29:38
that and that's what brendan rodgers is
29:41
always going to have a problem with now
29:42
tucle had no problem doing it but he
29:45
grinded he grinded his way through mines
29:48
he grinded his way through bruce
29:50
dortmund playing some of the best
29:52
football they've ever seen so he has
29:54
that level of like i put the years under
29:56
my belt you know i've done you know
29:58
pokel
29:59
potter doesn't have that and i think
30:00
that's always going to be the issue and
30:02
i think it's that gravitas piece like
30:04
like
30:05
when you're an all-time great player
30:08
and again this is where olleh all they
30:11
had it and that's kind of what kept him
30:12
in the job but gerard coming in at villa
30:16
do we have two managers that came in
30:17
right he just likes he just goes in and
30:19
he's just i got this is olay the player
30:22
comparable to steven gerrard the player
30:24
or is he ollie the player
30:26
you've said this on the show before and
30:27
i think it's a perfect analogy uh is he
30:30
aaron boone the player
30:32
he's aaron boone right yeah so well
30:35
actually but i mean
30:36
to be fair
30:38
but but he's much better he's closer to
30:40
boone than he is to gerrard right like
30:42
he's gerard
30:44
gerard is derek jeter yes
30:47
i actually made that comparison i made
30:48
that comparison before as well but so um
30:51
except as a loser well sort of a little
30:53
bit sort of but for one thing uh
30:57
but yeah i mean ole
30:59
is known for one thing
31:02
it's it's you know it's it's incredibly
31:05
you know dramatic and great and all that
31:07
stuff but it's not as if
31:10
he was the bus driver for a decade right
31:12
he was a he was a a supporting actor who
31:16
had a really really great line in an
31:17
awesome comedy movie that's what he was
31:19
right he was i mean he's he's he was
31:22
like what kevin james and one of the
31:23
decent ish out of sam you basically what
31:26
he was was a
31:28
club legend who greets you when you go
31:30
to the uh the boxes yes who ended up
31:33
getting the job like my analogy was this
31:35
the way i thought about it was it would
31:36
be as though
31:38
they did a
31:40
who wants to be the man united manager
31:42
collected all the great all like all the
31:45
uh alzheimer's day guys show up and they
31:48
did a show and he won
31:50
[Laughter]
31:52
like he beat out steve bruce for the
31:54
keys to men united he's like and ole
31:57
you are now the manchester united
32:00
manager and he's like yeah you
32:02
are the father
32:04
yeah yeah so i mean that's basically
32:06
what it is it was like a reality show
32:08
guy who gets to be the end of the job
32:10
but the contestants were all former
32:12
united players you know gary neville
32:14
drops out immediately because everyone
32:15
hates him and he's like oh at this
32:17
moment in time i'm leaving the show so
32:19
[ __ ] him uh but yeah
32:22
it's it's shocking it's shocking it's uh
32:24
it's one of these things where i'm not
32:26
sure
32:27
um
32:29
what they do but i do i do want to sort
32:31
of go to the last of my big threes is uh
32:34
our things is just another
32:37
another city performance against everton
32:39
um
32:40
this game will be remembered as the game
32:42
where
32:43
gio conselo made the greatest pass
32:45
anyone has ever seen in the history of
32:46
the world
32:50
yeah
32:52
uh right footed onto raheem sterling's
32:54
foot no problem goals
32:57
and we're there um where do you want to
33:00
go next mike yeah no i actually want to
33:02
switch gears i want to talk about that
33:04
canadian concacaf chaos we talked about
33:07
in the open because uh when we left you
33:10
last last tuesday was just after the us
33:14
had absolutely trounced mexico uh and i
33:18
he i had some words of caution because
33:20
at that point we were only halfway
33:22
through the concacaf um world cup
33:24
qualifying
33:26
the u.s was top of the table everything
33:27
was looking good but there was
33:30
danger of foot especially for a team
33:33
that was on sort of shaky footing like
33:35
the us transaction team was what we
33:37
learned was that two three days later
33:39
the us dropped points against jamaica
33:41
you already mentioned michael antonio
33:43
that son of a [ __ ]
33:44
um
33:46
the u.s drops points they are no longer
33:48
top of the table because
33:50
the canadian national team played
33:53
with
33:54
father with general winter on their side
33:57
in the most
33:59
uh frozen game that
34:01
mexico's ever played in
34:03
two nil almost another dos acero with a
34:05
late mexico gold omega 2-1 and now
34:08
canada the canadian national team is top
34:11
of concacaf with games in january coming
34:14
up where it's going to be even colder so
34:17
um i gotta say it's gonna be difficult
34:21
to knock them certainly all the way down
34:23
to one of the even the fourth spot where
34:25
you're not going to have um you know
34:27
you're gonna have to be on that playoff
34:29
so right now canada's won us two mexico
34:32
three and i believe it's panama four i'm
34:34
not looking at the table right now but
34:37
um yeah i don't know
34:39
where it goes from here
34:41
the nickname is iceteca
34:44
ice hecka nice
34:46
i love it uh so i do want to i do want
34:50
to give us some credit i mean we we both
34:52
were like
34:53
why not canada
34:55
yeah they have the best player they now
34:57
have uh jonathan david who's leading
35:00
league on scoring
35:02
from
35:03
already led a team to win the league in
35:06
liga where is he going to go next is he
35:08
the next striker to make the jump to the
35:10
champion to to the premier league
35:12
because as we said before narrative
35:14
dictates you're not a real player until
35:16
you're in the gym until you're in the
35:18
premier league which is bigger than the
35:20
champions league which is coming back
35:21
and we don't even care because these
35:23
games don't matter uh maybe for a couple
35:25
teams uh and so you know i think in the
35:28
alfonso davies thing david a team that
35:31
plays as a unit we've seen it with wales
35:34
we've seen a good coach galvanizing a
35:36
country to pull around them there's no
35:39
reason why not canada they're early
35:42
they're looking at 26 they don't care
35:43
about 22 and they're going to make it
35:46
so that's fine
35:47
so all right going back to the table i
35:49
do have it up now us on 16 us i'm sorry
35:52
canada on 16 us on 15 mexico and panama
35:56
tied on 14. now mexico's got that
35:58
difference in uh the the tiebreaker and
36:00
gold difference but what we're talking
36:01
about is a scenario a disaster scenario
36:04
where mexico could be playing for their
36:06
lives to get into the world cup which
36:07
has happened i think in both of the not
36:10
the:36:12
cup um let me ask you this
36:15
how hot is tata martino's seat right now
36:18
hot
36:18
yeah because they don't this doesn't
36:21
happen to mexico quote-unquote right
36:23
they they are they are very much in the
36:26
chelsea
36:27
realm of things where they react and
36:30
overreact and uh not even chelsea more
36:32
more watford than chelsea right they
36:34
they change their manager more than they
36:36
change their underwear down there so
36:38
he
36:39
he should be getting close to fired yeah
36:41
it's actually that bad um i see who
36:43
they're playing in in january they may
36:46
have to they may have to appoint dean
36:47
smith for mexico okay so they have two
36:50
soft games in january coming up um but
36:53
there's three it's they're shoehorning
36:56
him again
36:57
jamaica costa rica and then a massive
37:00
game
37:01
at home i believe
37:03
against panama
37:05
uh on february 2nd
37:07
so we'll see
37:08
what that looks like then and then
37:10
conversely panama in that next structure
37:12
because this is going to go a long way
37:13
right like so
37:15
actually they have the opposite they
37:17
have costa rica then jamaica and then
37:19
mexico so if you you can envision both
37:22
of these teams get six out of six from
37:24
those first two games that is an
37:25
absolutely massive showdown uh on
37:29
february 2nd so you could be looking at
37:31
you know the the biggest game
37:33
in concacaf and ironically you're i'm
37:36
completely neglecting the fact that the
37:38
us is going to play canada three days
37:40
earlier right that's for the top of the
37:41
table but realistically
37:44
i think it's strange that there's there
37:46
it doesn't matter as much for the pots
37:48
and the groups and all that stuff if
37:50
you're in you're in right so i don't
37:52
think it matters it's just a matter of
37:54
how quickly you get in
37:56
the the real thing is it's it's like
37:59
it's like the promotion playoff being
38:01
bigger than who won the championship
38:02
right like that's kind of how i think of
38:04
it in my head yeah so
38:07
we're literally
38:08
one year out from the world cup one yeah
38:11
i know i know and and i'm starting to
38:13
get excited about it that game against
38:14
mexico really jazzed me up we're gonna
38:16
have the uh winter olympics in february
38:19
which i'm really excited about i'm
38:21
talking about that usa canada in fact we
38:24
might have usa canada in
38:26
uh in soccer and then in hockey like
38:29
three or four days back back to each
38:31
other so um
38:33
i'm our shows that week i'm gonna be
38:36
really like full on i'm gonna face paint
38:39
i'm gonna be talking some [ __ ] about
38:40
maple syrup it's gonna get wild in here
38:43
um
38:44
so yeah we had we had we had we had two
38:48
three threes yeah let's get into that
38:50
two three threes for teams that uh
38:52
shouldn't have three threes uh burnley
38:55
and
38:56
crystal palace actually i'll put these
38:57
two together because it's all the
38:58
greatest hits it's burnley crystal
39:00
palace
39:01
and then it's uh brentford and
39:04
uh newcastle the results don't matter i
39:06
don't really care all that matters is
39:08
gallagher was incredible saying maxum
39:11
man scored two goals was incredible um
39:13
ivan tony scored two goals was
39:15
incredible and then burnley was my guy
39:18
cornay just like being the black
39:21
stallion who who in this field of old
39:25
beat up junky white english players
39:28
they're not even like white horses
39:29
they're cows
39:31
right he's like he's like the herding
39:33
dog
39:34
right
39:36
yeah yeah it's like a bunch of
39:38
soot-faced
39:40
[ __ ] coal miners and there's this
39:42
beautiful exactly what mother burnley is
39:44
how have we not made a coal miner joke
39:46
about burnley and then there's this 100
39:48
40 million episodes goddammit there's
39:50
this beautiful french african who just
39:53
comes in and just gives them something
39:55
completely new completely beautiful and
39:58
scores goals that
39:59
no one on their team would ever score
40:01
ever in a million years
40:04
and then of course gallagher set up
40:06
benteke twice and been taking this one
40:08
gallagher is by far my favorite player i
40:10
can't even deal with him he's like he's
40:12
just a [ __ ] jack relish but jack
40:15
realistic [ __ ] so maybe he's actually
40:17
the new dracula the only thing i don't
40:19
love about it is that at the end of the
40:20
year he's got to go back to [ __ ]
40:22
chelsea so
40:24
maybe maybe but he won't play it chelsea
40:27
yeah that's true
40:28
so uh yeah by the way another weird
40:31
story to follow is
40:32
new castle is bottom of the table
40:35
uh norwich two wins in a row farpas win
40:38
and then dean smith got a win against
40:40
southampton by the way haas and judo for
40:42
united just putting it in here
40:44
no
40:45
no wouldn't it be bad
40:48
we fell in love with him and we were
40:51
sold snake oil i like them still and i
40:53
want to root for them i want this i want
40:54
them to stay up
40:56
that would be a disaster you know
40:58
actually now i like it
41:01
because he would cry when he beat
41:02
liverpool yeah no he would cry when he
41:04
got his [ __ ] kicked in by liverpool did
41:06
you see his he's wearing the three-piece
41:08
suit by the way it looks very oh i
41:09
didn't see that on a giant man he's
41:11
wearing he's wearing the he's no tr he's
41:13
tracksuit out three piece in is he
41:15
trippy he's triple breasted yeah yeah
41:18
he's looking good
41:19
but losing losing to norwich
41:24
so we've we now have
41:26
newcastle
41:28
bottom of the table
41:29
with the saudis in place
41:32
eddie howe in his hotel room because he
41:34
got covered
41:35
before the game
41:37
so he's got two weeks sitting in his
41:38
hotel room they did come out and attack
41:42
mac i just want to see maxim you know
41:44
say maxim just go nuts and not defend i
41:46
don't care what the hell he does as long
41:48
as he does insane things like spin
41:49
around i wanted to do a spinorama goal
41:52
that's my goal for him is to do a spin
41:54
aroma because spinoramas are cool in
41:56
every sport
41:57
including
41:58
especially in hockey oh expression
42:00
let's let's um come up with a reason
42:04
another reason to root against newcastle
42:06
if they go down they will sell say
42:09
maximum
42:11
no they won't you don't think they will
42:13
you don't think he'll stay there for a
42:14
year
42:15
no
42:16
they won't have to sell him he'll want
42:18
to leave
42:19
yes okay that's correct yep you're right
42:21
um
42:22
and
42:25
there's a chance then he goes to
42:28
you know one of the there's a chance he
42:30
goes to brighton
42:33
oh my god oh my god you would you would
42:36
you would light all of your manchester
42:37
city stuff on fire live on the job
42:41
and denounce them forever and become a
42:42
bright you would do it you would like
42:44
it'd be like a gender reveal you would
42:46
just like unzip your jacket and be a big
42:48
brighton shirt i think i think the
42:50
problem i'm having right now is
42:52
there's
42:53
too many good fun teams like the [ __ ]
42:56
part of the league you know outside of
42:57
the big three which we kind of tried to
42:59
touch on like there's these three teams
43:00
they're going to win the league then
43:02
five through
43:03
what are 12. they're
43:05
they're all really good and really
43:06
likable and it's sad that three teams
43:08
have to go down
43:10
like even burnley you're just like oh
43:12
does daichi really go down or like okay
43:15
wait wait wait wait wait is it is it
43:16
really going to be leads is it going to
43:17
be dory i'm out
43:19
burnley is likeable for burnley
43:22
because they have one good player
43:24
and we all have stockholm syndrome based
43:26
on what they usually look like and then
43:27
we go
43:28
okay well i mean that guy's great right
43:31
it's almost as if if um
43:35
uh you know rose by another name right
43:37
like uh i don't i don't subscribe to
43:40
that they are more fun than past
43:43
iterations of burnley but they can still
43:44
get [ __ ] back to the championship get
43:46
the hell out of here i'm done with burn
43:48
i'm not like okay so
43:50
if i
43:51
if i go by
43:52
my xg per 90
43:55
worst teams are norwich
43:58
newcastle watching tottenham okay but
44:00
watford have these
44:02
no not anymore tottenham
44:04
are moved up the list they're now
44:06
right in the middle of the table right
44:07
exactly where you'd expect it to be yeah
44:09
but uh arsenal arsenal are actually uh
44:13
um liverpool are the best in city these
44:15
two the three that we expect are there
44:17
and then strangely
44:19
crystal palace is in the top five for
44:21
that that's a surprise i'll keep my
44:23
keep my eye on that so norwich we think
44:26
would go down that wouldn't be a
44:27
surprise
44:28
newcastle going down they have to make
44:30
it january but they need to be in
44:32
striking distance
44:33
and then
44:34
watford they do wait to to stay up no
44:37
they don't
44:38
um
44:39
they need to be
44:40
within and this is a this is a big
44:43
number but i would say if they are right
44:45
now they're five
44:47
if they're within 10 points of 17th
44:50
place they can pull out of that
44:53
anything more is going to be tough
44:55
but 10
44:56
10 points
44:58
yeah it is but think about it in the
44:59
context of man it's if if let's say if
45:04
liverpool's chasing chelsea and on
45:06
january 1st they're 10 points behind
45:07
you're like oh my god that's a lot of
45:09
points
45:10
it is because chelsea is not going to
45:12
drop 10 points
45:14
not because liverpool have to make up 10
45:16
plus from wherever they are if newcastle
45:18
has to make up 10 plus points on leeds
45:21
or on watford that is not the same as
45:23
making up 10 points on the title
45:24
challenger so i do think that lion is
45:26
probably 10 maybe even a little bit more
45:29
but not a lot um
45:31
but yeah and especially in the context
45:33
of you're fighting for your [ __ ] life
45:35
every point matters
45:36
relative to
45:38
we're 10 points behind we're chasing
45:40
this un you know unwinnable war
45:42
essentially with chelsea or city or
45:43
whoever it is at the top of the table at
45:45
that point um yeah i mean i'm just
45:47
looking at the group here right like
45:49
norwich is a go down candidate
45:51
watford arsenal is down here but there's
45:53
no way arsenal's going down burnley's
45:55
there bill is there leads are there
45:59
i don't think villa's going down uh
46:00
speaking of where gerard had his first
46:02
game he showed the passion almost the
46:04
same way that kante does that kind of
46:05
like jump and punch what you want like
46:08
chuck does it in a in a neurotic way
46:10
uh
46:11
does it in a neurotic way i just worry
46:14
that it's gonna seem phony with gerrard
46:17
it's not
46:19
i'm not
46:20
wait till things don't
46:22
think things go a little bit sideways
46:24
not a lot two losses on the bounce
46:27
i i i i really like him i watched him
46:30
i'm not saying i don't like him i'm just
46:32
weary of
46:34
buying his all the way through
46:36
i watched all his stuff with rangers and
46:38
he
46:39
he's got the right
46:41
manner like he comes with the suit and
46:43
the tie and the jacket he's not like
46:45
he's not fly by night like he's
46:47
he's taking the intensity that he took
46:49
as a player to be the best player he
46:51
could be and he's taking that intensity
46:53
to be the best manager he can be right
46:55
like it's not
46:56
and he's not ego maniacal that he got
46:59
guys that are real managers who really
47:01
know what they're doing and to this
47:03
point of like oh wow that shows
47:05
maturity right like oh he's not afraid
47:08
he's got big personalities on his staff
47:09
that actually do stuff so and
47:12
again think about what all the things
47:14
the same the same
47:16
way the mindset i just cited about the
47:18
10-point gap
47:19
you have think about the teams you have
47:20
to beat just to stay up which
47:23
realistically is villa's goal this
47:24
season i know gerrard's gonna have
47:26
higher ambitions to get them to mid
47:27
table which you could argue is just as
47:29
likely
47:31
um as them staying up but they have to
47:34
be worse than watford leeds and burnley
47:36
basically all three of them
47:39
they're not gonna do that they're
47:40
they'll be fine
47:42
yeah i i am starting to get worried for
47:44
brentford
47:45
i don't i i don't want to be but i am
47:48
too um but again they're a team that
47:50
attacks a team that goes to play for
47:52
wins and not draws so if they lose the
47:54
next three and they win two they'll be
47:57
fine
47:57
they need to get the keeper thing right
48:00
i know because that keeper thing is
48:02
worrying me uh anything else we got
48:04
champions league city play psg
48:06
pochettino in manchester um
48:09
scary i'm not liking it uh chelsea play
48:12
yuve this is a weak uva they should have
48:14
no problem with yuve because they're so
48:16
so good they don't give up any goals
48:18
well you've one of
48:28
and that's actually a game for the top
48:29
of the group isn't it
48:31
the villa real united game i i don't
48:34
think anyone expects anything from
48:35
united but villarreal are not really
48:38
playing well in spain so
48:41
hold on it shouldn't be close
48:43
it shouldn't be close at all but well
48:45
neither should the neither should the
48:47
young boys game
48:48
right but like
48:50
we we're going to learn a little bit
48:51
about carrick because it's not a regime
48:53
change he's been there the whole time
48:55
with ole so
48:57
uh i don't know but i want to dial it
48:58
back to you and chelsea for a second i'm
49:00
looking at the table right now uv's 4-0
49:02
chelsea's three and one uh the goal
49:04
difference is plus two for yuve a
49:06
one-nil win for chelsea puts them even
49:09
uh and i don't know what the second
49:11
tiebreaker would be that goal's four so
49:12
i think uva would still have it but um
49:16
it's head to head first yeah but you've
49:18
a they'd be
49:20
even if it's aggregate right they won
49:21
one nothing so
49:22
anything
49:25
there are some permutations of this
49:26
where chelsea go ahead on goal
49:28
difference but
49:29
the point is that going into the last
49:31
match day of the of the group you would
49:33
have uve and chelsea both on 12 points
49:36
both on what would probably be a six
49:38
goal difference um so there's a lot of
49:40
different um avenues for chelsea to
49:43
to um you know kind of stamp their mark
49:46
on and get that first place in the group
49:47
which obviously is important because you
49:49
don't want to be stuck with a a stud
49:51
team uh in the round of 16. so um but
49:55
they will get through with a win or any
49:56
kind of result uh it seems
49:58
so um this united this united this
50:01
united game is massive
50:04
yeah i mean like
50:05
gigantic
50:07
for them
50:08
because they then they'll really freak
50:09
out if they if they well i mean yuva and
50:13
chelsea are through right it's just who
50:15
wins the group
50:16
uh the only ones that are up for grabs
50:18
is a [ __ ] group with redville salzburg
50:21
united villarreal atlanta they're all
50:23
they're all fighting
50:24
bayern barcelona
50:26
with jave that doesn't matter the inter
50:29
real madrid one is
50:30
still up for grabs but sheriff is not
50:32
[ __ ] whatever no not iacs are the
50:35
best team in the world that no one talks
50:37
about
50:40
um
50:40
and then city psg
50:42
they're both through but it depends on
50:45
well we talked about this during the
50:46
last champions league midweek game
50:49
whatever the [ __ ] match day um atlanta
50:51
has just as much of a chance to win that
50:53
group as united and villarreal do so um
50:57
i'm very excited to see they should take
50:59
care of business against young boys
51:00
tomorrow or or whenever the hell they
51:02
play this week and um
51:05
i think that
51:06
it all contin it's all contingent if you
51:08
remember it was like a month ago and i
51:09
was sort of getting galaxy brain i'm
51:11
like well this team puts this team but
51:12
this is pretty cool um
51:14
but uh
51:15
you're gonna have atlanta on eight so
51:17
that means in all likelihood you're
51:19
either gonna have them tied with all
51:21
with both clubs on eight or they're
51:23
going to be in second place so um
51:26
very very interesting stuff and then i
51:28
think they play
51:30
villarreal
51:31
uh yeah they play villarreal and united
51:33
in their last two games in the group so
51:35
a lot of fun of for for group f i think
51:37
that's one to watch closely
51:39
um i don't really know that there's that
51:41
much
51:42
else here like you said we ran through
51:44
it but city psg is the headliner but i
51:47
kind of don't care i don't yeah it's
51:51
it's weird i don't either uh i'm just
51:54
happy the league's back happy we had
51:56
good games happy to see gerard win happy
51:59
to have dean smith pulling things out
52:01
those were good dudes um still
52:03
fascinated by what happens with united
52:06
who the coach is going to be it's a
52:07
complete catastrophe and then kante and
52:10
what he does with spurs second half
52:12
could they
52:14
let's let's say
52:16
where what happens to them if they are
52:20
if like if the season started today
52:22
if they were top four the rest of the
52:23
way i think they could be
52:26
they're going to be absolutely tough for
52:27
the rest of the way i think uh they'll
52:30
struggle at the back
52:32
you can't have ben davies uh starting in
52:35
a back three i mean he's a good left
52:37
center back in that but like
52:38
i i think he's okay there i think as a
52:41
as a wing back enough
52:43
as a fullback
52:44
i just and romero's hurt again because
52:47
of [ __ ] international duty and i just
52:50
every time tottenham get a little bit of
52:52
momentum they plastically burst
52:54
themselves and it's just back to square
52:56
one right so you know what it's gonna be
52:58
it's gonna be
53:00
can
53:01
kante
53:02
teach
53:03
sanchez how to play football and joe
53:06
rodon i don't know where the [ __ ] he's
53:07
been but like he'll probably play this
53:09
week on thursday and i think that
53:11
in so much as everybody's got a chance
53:13
under contact you can only play 11
53:15
players so the more games you get under
53:18
him the more training sessions you get
53:19
under him the more chance of making an
53:22
impression so i think rodon's hungry i
53:25
think he wants
53:26
some of these minutes you're not going
53:28
to be able to play dire sanchez davies
53:30
the whole time you're going if if romero
53:32
is in fact out an extended period of
53:34
time which seems to be the report
53:36
joe rodon is going to play a big part in
53:38
the next six weeks so
53:40
i'm hoping that he gets his shot
53:42
all right i'm ready all right let's get
53:44
out of here all right
53:46
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53:48
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53:50
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53:53
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54:10
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54:12
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