Episode #144 - UEFA Champions League Round of 16: Man City, Liverpool run riot and El Douchico Preview

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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

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time podcast with mike and laurent it is

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friday february 18th

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i am happy to be back mike i missed you

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i was depressed and now i feel better in

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this episode we're gonna review the

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champions league that just was we're

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gonna look at the the upcoming games but

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first mikey mike it is

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the quadranual el duchico spurs vs

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manchester city at the etihad

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how are you feeling

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mike yeah and you know they have me

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right where they want me

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to do because

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they're awful they're unwatchable

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they're

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frustrating uh they're disjointed

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they're all these things and yet if you

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look at their record recently against

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manchester city when they're looking

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uh and playing like [ __ ]

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then

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they actually come out and play well

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against city so city uh flying high as

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usual right i mean how many that's 500

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well four out of five the other was a

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draw they beat the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of

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sporting

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on the road i'll do the scores in a

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minute yeah i

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am going to believe in them because yes

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because

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because it makes because it makes

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[ __ ] no sense not to

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yeah

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believe in them i love it i love you

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these are the games where they show up

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so we'll do the scores and we'll get

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right to it first in the premier league

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manchester united defeat my beloved

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brighton brighton we're strong in the

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first half and then a red card from my

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friend mr dunk and then uh backyard mr

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ronaldo puts uh united in front it's his

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first goal in six games and everything

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is right in the united world they pick

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up a late goal to win two-nil into the

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champions i know we go international but

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not often psg

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defeat real madrid oh messi misses a

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penalty real madrid don't take a shot on

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target

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disgusting they play really defensive

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it's actually disgusting city go to

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portugal and stomp sporting uh they have

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one of their games where when city's

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shots go in they really beat you really

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badly and that happened red bull

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salzburg formerly of ralph ragnarok

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stomping ground draw 1-1 versus mighty

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bayern munich oh if the away goes rules

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still existed that would be a big goal

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it wasn't uh

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enter

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home at the san siro stifle liverpool

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but liverpool again they're really good

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and they find a goddamn way the sons of

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[ __ ] but next week we have chelsea

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first little villarreal you've ended

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benfica ix and then the battle of two

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terrible teams that probably shouldn't

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be here and have fallen apart since they

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qualified for these groups atletico

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madrid versus men united that will be

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the game that everyone is paying

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attention to for the next round

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mike where do you want to go i want to

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start with um with psg real madrid

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because we talk i talked about it in the

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in the preview that this was a huge game

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for pochettino he for all the fanfare

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that he got in the summer um you know

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everybody was you know excited about him

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potentially leaving whatever and then

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psg made a big grand gesture and said

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he's coming back he's staying

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this is the

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basically [ __ ] or get off the pot moment

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i mean this is their whole season well

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of course but like this is

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historically with psg you get two maybe

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three kicks at the can

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in champions league and you're out the

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door so this is his second i think

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second full time through it right maybe

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third

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um

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i can't remember because the covenant is

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all blended together at this point but

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um but look you know for as much as

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madrid was

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on madrid right uh no shots as you

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alluded to they very defensive like they

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gave psg everything that they could want

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yeah they came really close to getting

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away with it right so uh

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scores in the 94th minute to give them

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the goal that they needed so

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uh all to play for in the second leg

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it's certainly not done and dusted but

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um

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but almost right almost for for for

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madrid so

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um

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in the back of my mind i'm i i'm

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watching psg it through the prism of how

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does this affect mauricio pochettino not

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necessarily because i want him back it's

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time or anything just because i still

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find him to be well it becomes a deck

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shuffle and then does it does the thing

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open up to everything does he go to

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united does it does randy talk to him

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does he go back to spurs does all the

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you know the the deck

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around again everything starts moving

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again and again like we've said and been

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a theme of this season the especially

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after the um the the super league the

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power of the premier league is so huge

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that

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if you are not at bayern psg

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or

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real madrid or well barca is different

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because they have like that weird

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culture

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you have to be in a premier league even

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even the crystal palace job is a good

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job even aston villa is a good job like

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any job look at look at kante right

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kante won serial last year with interim

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was like i'm out of here so yeah um

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he he he left and he ended up at [ __ ]

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spurs yeah you're gonna tell me that

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that's a better job than inter no chance

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right historically it isn't but i think

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it is especially after you watch what

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just happened in syria i think but it's

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well it's a combination of yes the

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premier league is the best place to be

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but that who does that draw egos right

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so kante goes yeah i mean i won serie a

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nobody's [ __ ] paying attention

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i mean it was a big deal

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but i know i know but at the same time

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it's like all of my

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all of the the the men that i measure

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myself against

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are

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my peer group right i can be the king of

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coaches the co-ops the peps

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you know uh yeah and then and then you

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know with inter it was chinese investors

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they were all trying to get into soccer

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because she thought that soccer was cool

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they spent billions of dollars kissing

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his ass and the second he stopped being

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into soccer they've all bounced

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they're like you know as much as we can

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make f i mean make fun of the pif uh for

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saudi arabia make fun of qatar with psg

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make fun of um make fun of abu dhabi

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owning manchester city

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regardless of their

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of their

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goals that

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journalists have put on them

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they really are football fans and really

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care about making these teams win i

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don't care what the goals are when your

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team is owned by saudi princes

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they're [ __ ] serious yeah like it's

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nice

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absolutely right i don't want to try a

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weird chinese uh technocrat who's trying

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to kiss cheese ass at least the qataris

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the arab money is just like yeah

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we want to win this [ __ ] matters like

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psg is now on year 10 cities on year 15.

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they're not [ __ ] around no no it's

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actually amazing to me that if you put

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in those terms that neither of them will

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won the champions league yet that's

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crazy it's really really really [ __ ]

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hard to win the champions league i know

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i got close once and then never [ __ ]

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again it is i don't understand it and i

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think actually i i think this is one of

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those moments that i think we should

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step back on and do our sort of

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historical we'll talk inter and

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liverpool big game big all-time teams

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inter liverpool this is the european

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knights and i think it segues into the

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kind of energy of like

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you need the gravitas as a club i don't

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know how it gets to the players it gets

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transmitted into the fans it matters for

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certain teams more than others and i

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think about with american sports how

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we've

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we've given that up by

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player movement by free agency by where

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lebron goes is the finals and the teams

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don't have to build to making a finals

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to win right teams don't stay together

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long enough they get one punch and a

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nose the teams break up right like yeah

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you know does anyone think that i mean

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the rams kind of the nfl football you

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have to go for it and that's it and you

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go you don't make it to the super bowl

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lose and then make it again i have to i

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know we're gonna probably go into the

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american sports a little bit on this

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episode but uh i have to bring up the gm

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of the rams to your point like go for it

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he had a shirt and said [ __ ] them pics

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right which is brilliant

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yeah yeah because a gm shoe stafford got

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miller

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yeah

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like i mean that's i think one of the

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things that's

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disconnected from american fandom and i

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focus a lot on the nba because i just i

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follow the drama of everything that's

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not the games they literally don't talk

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about the games no the games are not

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material everything goes from trade

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deadline to who's a free agent in the

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summer

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not the games and while we lament

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sometimes in the premier league

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there's not enough to talk about because

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all we have is the games

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right like

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you know the nfl is like that because it

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has eight months of off season

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essentially right so i they get a pass

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baseball but the games but the games in

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the nfl at least drive the narrative no

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they matter right exactly yeah and so

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there's just so much more room for

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england and europe as a whole to grow

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and the weird thing about this is that

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they don't have anything else so i don't

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understand

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like

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you ever you ever find yourself thinking

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like with all the technology we have and

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all the things at our disposal that we

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have the balls to sometimes like say

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we're bored whereas like 200 years ago

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300 years ago like

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i would have killed myself i would have

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been sitting here like like that's what

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do you guys do the rest of the week like

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you know it's like well they do a lot of

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drinking i don't think that they i i i

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think one thing that we

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assume

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is that they know more about soccer than

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we do

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they don't

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we know and care about football more

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than they do because our culture about

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sport is way crazier than theirs like

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they don't they it's saturday comes and

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that's it right some guys are into it

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you get the odd weirdos who travel do

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their travel and away days so on one

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hand yes they no the way more percentage

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the percentage is

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like the the top 10

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they are significantly deeper than than

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we are but right but 11

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no no chance it's not even close no it's

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not even close i would say time goes in

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both directions right like that top ten

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but then you make the other side of it

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is like there are 92 professional teams

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there is a guy that we work for on

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fanhub who goes to every stockport

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county game every single one he made an

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app that's all he cares about russ we

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love you brother ross russ one of the

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others but uh but they they go that deep

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right so i don't it's weird like we're

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talking about it from this high level

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but they go down into these deep sort of

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like there's sunday league that's a

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thing they like it's much more pervasive

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to both be a fan of your team

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and play still

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because soccer lends that

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to you but again you're all no you're

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like no one plays football on their own

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for fun no no there's no sunday league

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throw have a thrill but i mean and it's

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not it's not a it's not the same thing

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but again

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we do have friday night lights so it's a

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lot of [ __ ] well

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there's that but there's

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again it i think you're talking about

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the top 10 ish percent of

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of uh you know the uk population or or

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fandom at that point but no we have five

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sports right how many people play beer

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league softball how many people play

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[ __ ] rec league something right so so

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you fan it out yeah but that they all

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fall in the casuals

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i consider myself an american

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die hard sports fan i'm not in that ten

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percent right now we're in another level

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i'm in the 10 of the united states

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fandom yeah i don't come close to the 10

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over there right so

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and if i grew up there maybe i would

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right maybe it would be cultural

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no you'd be a hooligan you would fight

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on the terraces you would do that i

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wouldn't anymore probably because the um

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the

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cctv would have quality in the cameras

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yes that's exactly where i was going yes

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yeah well yeah but i would have some

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battle scars for sure

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in fact in fact i do from rangers

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islanders games so i'm pretty much there

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still okay oh god god love hockey and

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it's fighting uh so we we go into the

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games liverpool beat inter at the san

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siro firmino and salah get it done and

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liverpool are

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moving along getting themselves into

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gear klopp seems to be blooding in new

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players we've got the the youngsters are

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coming through um we've got

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a real sort of regeneration i think that

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giotta has clearly taken over the

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firmino spot even though firmino got

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through

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uh harvey elliott is being playing on a

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regular basis and he even got konate

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in there in a big game against inter and

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this inters playing their best now to be

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fair

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edison jeko is

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36 years old

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uh yeah uh perisic is 35 years old so

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vidal is also 35 years old so when you

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get a sense of what's going on in syria

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ah

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they still are playing some

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alexis sanchez came on you've still got

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some a little bit retirement home

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whereas liverpool is putting out the

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best of the best they're reloading

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they're really reloading

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um i don't think he made an app oh he

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did diaz came on uh at some point so

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yeah they're reloading they're not

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they're not shying away and and

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the thing about the retirement home and

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it's not to say that firmino is there

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yet but

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he came on in the 75th minute and he is

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officially now he'll he's gonna get you

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you know do a job for you so he had the

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first goal uh and and listen it's a game

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where they're on the road in champions

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league european night

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they broke through in a late you know

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two late goals so that seems to be the

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theme of the week you know realistically

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yeah and then they'll go they'll go to

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anfield and there's just i mean it's all

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there's no way inter has no chance

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listen like what i would say is if inter

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was up two nil not down to now

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even then they definitely

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probably still should be favored right

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so yeah i mean but that but see that's

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the wonder of of of liverpool though

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they're fans

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as much as they probably have anxiety

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they're afraid

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one goal early and they're like we got

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them

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there's a very

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very few teams that feel that way no

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right there's a nervousness i think it's

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a list of one

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yeah it's anfield right right and it's

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definitely not my team my team falls

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behind uh even though city when we win

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five nil we look incredible city i think

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i would say byron's probably the other

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one but you don't have the fan like the

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the

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the sky is going to fall on top of me

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feeling on the pitch at no they're in a

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very wealthy city of bayern it's

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metropolitan they have a beautiful new

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stadium they're brian i don't know you

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know what i would say the team on the

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field is is you feel like that but but

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not necessarily like oh my god there's

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gonna be yeah but i don't know i don't

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think the iron the alliances

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is their original stadium and i'm

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embarrassed that i don't even know what

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byron's old stadium would have been i

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should know that i don't want and i

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don't want to search for it uh i do want

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to go we'll go to salzburg byron in a

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minute but i do want to go through city

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i want to give the team credit raheem

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sterling with a hat trick a natural hat

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trick after missing a penalty and

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putting it in natural hat trick left

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foot right foot and a header uh read

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mares also puts one in phil foden on

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some nifty skippy skippy uh footwork to

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score a goal porto really showed

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they played okay but city in these

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moments when they take four shots and

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three of them go in you're gone they'll

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blow you away you need city to miss when

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raheem sterling is hitting top bins on a

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cut inside you're in trouble so raheem

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inform city playing city now [ __ ]

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around playing uh john stones at right

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back

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just giving zero [ __ ]

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yeah and he looks good you know that's

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just sitting for you they didn't need

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the speed of walker and i'm sure when

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there's more pace involved walker will

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come in but city crews this game they're

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so precise they just don't stop like i

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know everyone feels

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it's boring we do the albert pujol

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saying we do the i don't want to see tom

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brady come back he's down 20. he's going

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to just get this team back in order it

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doesn't matter which team it is that's

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how city are they move one way another

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player fills in the gap they move one

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way another player fills in the gap

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everything about them is precision it's

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killer if guard provide i i

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i'm gonna say it now i'm gonna look at

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the camera it is

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february 18th

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if pep doesn't [ __ ] this up

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city have a very good chance of winning

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the champions league of course they did

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one

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of course they knew but i don't know i

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don't know i don't know i feel like a

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lot of the dead weight

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yeah but a lot of the mistakes and [ __ ]

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ups that guardiola can do there aren't

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many left because the squad is getting

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really small there's only like 18 guys

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on the team now like yeah as long as he

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doesn't play ake in the final i'm good

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oh now you've spoken it into existence

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real quick

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it's the munich olympic stadium i did

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look it up which makes sense but it's

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been since 0.506 that they've had

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allianz so

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oh i don't like that munich olympic

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stadium

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it's a little nazi issue

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munching is now uh the current tenant

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despite no teams uh being there since

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2006. so

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i think we get a break on that one if

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i'm being honest

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is that is that that's world war two

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adjacent i think uh we'll accept we'll

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accept that as as an item for the show

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you know um let's talk red bull salzburg

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from an american perspective this is all

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about aronson if you watch the american

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team

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he's [ __ ] killer that team runs hard

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fights hard they're they have a 33 year

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old coach no player on that team or

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their coach

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this is all their first season

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the guy had never been a manager before

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and i wanted to bring it up with kante's

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comments about spurs saying how he needs

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more players he needs more older

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veterans and i think he got taken out of

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context to make the concert thing sound

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bad but

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i think

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you know it's just two ways of thinking

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right the

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do we let a team grow in a sort of

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easier league and let players grow we

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sell them on redb red bull salzburg has

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put some really great players in this in

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into europe

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holland

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monet being the two that i think of uh

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taki minamino also came through red bull

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salzburg and they have the weird sister

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club where it's like oh you could go to

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leipzig we don't own that right i was

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gonna say i confuse them with lipstick

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way too much

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they're not leipzig no no

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the sporting director you run both clubs

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yes

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which is weird and i think they all run

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red bull they have a whole thing going

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on uh so it's interesting how they

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worked that but aronson was really

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really really good uh and they they they

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will move him on he's got a

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he's got a conor gallagher quality i

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think he's got a very his game will

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translate to england he's got the hair

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he's got the running when he plays for

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the us men's national team

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he's got the fight and he set up the

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goal uh that put um red bull up but then

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of course kingsley come on and the

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relentlessness of [ __ ] bayern they

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get their goal if we were still doing

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away goals rules

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i'd still not it would be over

20:12

essentially because you've effectively

20:13

got to go to

20:14

munich and win right um whereas now

20:18

obviously you don't um

20:20

but no i i still i i called that out i

20:23

think i said in the preview episode that

20:25

i thought byron byron would handle them

20:27

but i think that they you know closer

20:29

than the expert sticks sort of thing so

20:30

i think it was probably right on the

20:31

money on that um

20:34

but no i just

20:37

getting back to your kante thing okay

20:39

yeah he did it at chelsea he did it at

20:41

inter he he talks and by the way chelsea

20:45

gave him a war chest chelsea gave him

20:46

like 100 million dollars in spending and

20:49

he was like ah i want more though so

20:51

he's insatiable in that front as he

20:52

should be he says he's vocal he says

20:54

what he wants he he goes after the you

20:57

know he talks about the players he wants

20:58

to go get he doesn't give a [ __ ] about

20:59

money

21:00

um i can't i can't imagine he didn't i

21:04

can't imagine he didn't know

21:06

levy was this way

21:08

that's the thing is that so okay you

21:11

have to remember before spurs hired nuno

21:15

they were this close to talking we're

21:17

talking with kante para tichi's

21:19

whispering in his ear their buddies from

21:20

the juventus days and then kante walks

21:23

away

21:24

and it was it was not reportedly over

21:27

his salary it was like hey you need your

21:29

[ __ ] team stinks you're gonna need

21:31

xyz players and levy's like that's just

21:34

not gonna happen not even like yeah yeah

21:37

yeah it's okay

21:38

fast forward three months later they

21:39

hire nuno and then subsequently fire

21:41

nuno they're still paying him i would

21:43

imagine

21:44

and they go

21:46

okay

21:47

we'll just lie to you like we'll get you

21:48

whatever the [ __ ] you want to get come

21:50

on in please come save us it could it

21:52

could still happen it just is going to

21:54

be it's going to be kante complaining

21:56

all the way i don't think he'll leave

21:58

i do i honestly do because you're going

22:00

to go 18 where do you think manchester

22:02

united i've said it a few times on the

22:04

show

22:05

he has an 18-month contract what's who

22:08

gives a [ __ ] to him if he leaves

22:11

you know six months into that what does

22:13

he care right like

22:15

the thing is that there has like i said

22:17

there has to be a job open but i do

22:18

think that united

22:19

come on

22:20

do you remember the saga where cristiano

22:23

ronaldo scored a goal and it basically

22:26

got um

22:28

it got nuno fired and not olay so that

22:31

so spurs got kante and not united you

22:33

think that they're gonna let that happen

22:34

again so i think that i think we're

22:36

going into the summer with the two

22:38

biggest names in the market still being

22:39

pochettino still being kante i i i think

22:43

one will be a free agent of his own

22:44

volition i think the other will get

22:46

fired um

22:48

maybe one of them will get the ray out

22:49

maybe pochettino will go to ray allen

22:51

maybe he will um it feels like

22:54

weirdly feels like a pochettino team now

22:57

what real does yeah

22:59

there's no major star power they're

23:02

they're investing in youth and they're

23:05

good they're not the galacticos anymore

23:07

right so i think no but i mean we will

23:09

see we will see that they will get

23:11

mbappe

23:13

they could get holland and mbappe

23:16

that's well that's fair but insane

23:20

okay so it's a question of what happens

23:21

first right because if pochettino does

23:23

go there does he say i don't want mbappe

23:26

or yeah he was great in paris let's get

23:28

him right so

23:30

so yeah i mean there's an effect i'm

23:32

just conjecture here i have no idea but

23:34

i'm saying like that could be the

23:35

inflection point for that they they are

23:37

still right after holland

23:39

they are still playing casimiro

23:42

modric and cruz still yeah

23:45

they're on like year eight

23:48

yep

23:49

it's just i mean i don't i don't know

23:51

together yeah

23:52

i don't know

23:53

if that still i don't know if some of

23:56

the longevity we're seeing you know

23:57

we're seeing it with tom brady and we're

23:59

seeing it with lebron and we're seeing

24:01

it with certain players

24:02

cristiano sorry uh messi less so i think

24:05

unless he's messy

24:08

not as good as he used to be uh let's be

24:10

very clear about what happened to messi

24:12

his soul he he doesn't feel the will to

24:15

go on anymore he's playing in paris

24:17

because there was nowhere else to go no

24:19

really else to go

24:21

the barcelona thing

24:23

changed him on a molecular level and he

24:26

doesn't have the drive anymore right

24:28

yeah you don't think so no think about

24:30

it right like ronaldo goes back to

24:32

united and he goes we're gonna do that

24:34

again and by the way

24:36

and and this is not to speak ill of

24:37

messi who i think is the more talented

24:39

of the two um

24:41

that

24:42

he has

24:44

an

24:45

unsafe insatiable drive right not that

24:47

messy doesn't

24:49

but it's different ronaldo

24:50

i think that's one thing ronaldo has had

24:52

over him and i think that that's where

24:54

the argument those who are in in

24:56

agreement with the ronaldo side of that

24:59

you know who who versus who argument

25:00

he's much more mj versus lebron

25:04

yeah yeah i agree and

25:07

but yeah i think that the he felt the

25:10

pride of barcelona

25:12

leave him and that has clearly taken its

25:15

toll um so it's not that he's still not

25:17

one of the best players in the world of

25:18

course he is but

25:20

there's not that killer i i feel the

25:23

same way i think that the episode of

25:24

ronaldo versus messi i i

25:27

you know it's it's ad nauseam but

25:30

i think ronaldo

25:32

being

25:33

for lack of a better word more worldly

25:36

just hey i left portugal at 19. i went

25:38

to england then i went to real madrid

25:40

and the biggest team in the world and i

25:41

said we were going to win the champions

25:43

league and we won three out of four and

25:45

now i'm going from here to there and i

25:46

went to uva and i'm going here

25:49

he's just got much more of a killer the

25:52

branding is he's much more out front

25:55

it's just

25:56

just he's just bigger and more

25:58

but to be more to him and in no

26:00

particular order it was batman and the

26:02

joker right like they played off of each

26:03

other for how long oh i think they

26:05

definitely pushed each other but i don't

26:06

think messi has the i want to be the

26:09

biggest media star in the world he'd

26:12

rather

26:12

go home

26:14

yes like he he doesn't care about that

26:16

and i think being out of barcelona has

26:18

hurt him for sure

26:21

and then there's neymar who i i don't

26:24

get the neymar thing i'll never get it i

26:26

never got it i don't care i don't think

26:28

i like brazilian players in general

26:30

whenever i hear people talk about

26:32

ronaldinho i get frustrated i'm like

26:34

what is it with these [ __ ] guys the

26:36

guy burnt out i don't get it i didn't

26:38

watch ronaldinho on a regular basis so i

26:40

can't say that i know everything and

26:42

anyone who's watching this and goes oh

26:44

you don't know anything about ronaldinho

26:46

[ __ ] plastic i'm like yes at some

26:48

point i had to be new to the game

26:50

i'm sorry

26:53

so treat me like a 10 year old i simply

26:56

didn't watch ronaldinho at the time

26:59

it didn't happen sorry barcelona

27:01

couldn't get past napoli today in the

27:04

europa league

27:05

so that's

27:07

yeah sure

27:09

but it's just it's a it's another

27:11

it's another moment of wow how far

27:13

they've fallen right

27:17

missing the shot and crying on the pitch

27:19

in the europa league how are you going

27:21

to handle it if you're crying in the

27:22

europa league yeah yeah so

27:25

look i mean

27:27

i i never had a dog in the fight i

27:28

always liked watching real madrid and

27:30

barcelona compete against each other and

27:32

i love the the plucky underdog piece of

27:34

athletico going back the last 10 15

27:37

years right um

27:39

and the whole the whole league is folded

27:42

into itself it almost feels like

27:45

uh

27:46

the few like the few years i got well

27:49

because the red sox were still good but

27:51

like after they wanted o4 it's like the

27:52

amer the rest of the american league

27:54

just kind of folded into itself

27:56

and that's kind of what syria not excuse

27:58

me la liga feels like right now so i

28:00

hope that they get their mojo back just

28:02

for the sake of the the neutral

28:04

there's a level of athleticism that when

28:06

you watch la liga games it's not there

28:09

they're just not

28:10

like adama triore is gonna kick that

28:13

league's ass right but again do you

28:16

remember what the kansas city royals

28:18

looked like in the heyday of the yankees

28:20

and red sox they all look like that now

28:23

yeah

28:24

right

28:24

because the yankees and red sox picked

28:26

up and left [ __ ] town

28:28

and you're left with royals versus

28:31

orioles in august yeah oh my god kill me

28:34

or that that mets that mets uh kansas

28:37

city world series was just like what's

28:39

happening baseball yeah yeah what's

28:41

going on stop letting teams win like

28:42

once cleveland wins oh the the indians

28:44

i'm calling them the indians then we'll

28:46

really have nothing left

28:48

yeah they should rig it well that i mean

28:50

that league's not going to start again

28:51

anyway um

28:53

let's go into what's coming up and then

28:56

we'll finish off and do a lot of time

28:59

about your poor team uh match-ups this

29:01

weekend the saturday early is west ham

29:04

versus newcastle all of a sudden that's

29:06

a really good [ __ ] that's a good game

29:07

that's a good game although sad news for

29:10

the l newcastle uh carrie trippy broken

29:13

foot ouch

29:14

ouch he had scored two free kicks in the

29:17

last two games west ham still fighting

29:20

still pushing nobody really wants top

29:22

four although the brighton loss does put

29:24

united squarely into that top four slot

29:27

they might not release it for the rest

29:29

of the season but the way they've been

29:30

going i don't expect that arsenal

29:33

brentford go to arsenal as much as our

29:35

brentford love festive's gone on i feel

29:38

like these are the teams that arsenal

29:40

just beats easily like brentford is that

29:42

feels like oh arsenal's just going to

29:44

beat brentford they've got revenge on

29:46

their mind for opening day right yeah go

29:48

back to that opening day game and think

29:50

about

29:51

where arsenal are yeah and where they

29:54

are now yeah it's night and day so

29:56

um and and i said this uh the other day

29:59

uh on my solo show that i think i think

30:01

arteta

30:03

hey it could be manager of the year

30:05

if he gets in the top four he will be

30:07

managing definitely yeah and and even

30:09

still he's he's in the conversation so

30:11

but i mean it does it does matter i

30:13

think like if city finished with 95

30:15

points i guess pep can't get it again

30:18

maybe anyway that's the hard part right

30:20

like we have yes

30:22

we almost have a traditional match week

30:24

in that we actually have six

30:27

seven a.m 10 a.m kickoffs so get your

30:29

goal zone out on on a peacock for you

30:32

people in europe we have a channel that

30:34

lets you watch all the games happen all

30:36

at the same time you guys have to watch

30:37

guys talk into screens oh my god but we

30:40

can actually watch peop a game and they

30:43

cut into the games i imagine red zone is

30:46

available over there right like no no no

30:48

no no no no no no like nfl nfl red zone

30:52

yes they probably have okay so that's

30:54

what it is guys we came up with red zone

30:57

because fantasy football became the

30:59

biggest thing in the nfl in the last 20

31:01

years so the nfl was like hey here's a

31:04

way to watch six games at once this is

31:06

[ __ ] great

31:08

and so basically peacock and nbc

31:11

who have the rights here in the states

31:12

well it's produced it's produced by the

31:14

premier league is it really yeah yeah

31:17

wow and they just don't let those guys

31:18

have it i love

31:19

how just

31:21

futile they are

31:22

in their own well

31:24

they've got to protect the

31:26

lower league football because if you

31:28

actually had the games be on television

31:30

no one would go to uh scunthorpe or

31:33

rotherham or uh kittyminster or uh

31:36

stockport

31:37

that's just the most broken [ __ ]

31:39

logic i've ever anyway i know it doesn't

31:41

matter so we carry on uh so that we have

31:44

burnley versus brighton burnley in the

31:46

relegation zone these are the games they

31:48

gotta win if burnley wants to get out of

31:50

it they've got to take points right now

31:52

i mean brighton will play them off the

31:54

park but burnley so i talked i talked a

31:56

little bit about this the other day i i

31:58

just it's over uh norwich watford

32:00

burnley pack your [ __ ] like that

32:03

because there's not there's not four

32:04

teams worse

32:06

three teams excuse me no no none of them

32:08

are catching newcastle right this is

32:09

kind of what i was talking about norwich

32:11

is four points but with literally 19

32:14

goals behind in difficult difference or

32:16

17. uh watford are six points behind

32:19

with where's goal difference so so you

32:22

have to

32:23

win

32:24

two or if you're burnley three more

32:27

games in newcastle the rest of the year

32:29

that's not going to happen that's not

32:31

going to happen no the trippy a thing is

32:32

big he's going to be out for six weeks

32:34

but

32:35

burnley

32:36

burnley have one win

32:38

they need at least what did we say eight

32:41

six

32:42

we said eight we paired it down to like

32:44

five right if they're lucky yeah yeah

32:46

but again they start winning now

32:49

they've already lost two of their four

32:51

games in hand and it's just it's the the

32:53

clock is

32:54

rapidly approaching midnight for sure

32:56

we'll see what brighton does at home uh

32:59

burnley that's a must win uh liverpool

33:01

norwich norwich at this point cannon

33:03

fodder at home liverpool

33:07

that's what's the line probably three

33:09

four yeah probably something like that

33:11

uh another another good game the now

33:13

resurgent southampton under the now

33:16

resurgent frank lampard frank lampard

33:18

has figured out that everton

33:21

sorry yeah the south hampton are playing

33:22

everton frank lampard has figured out

33:24

that evanston can't defend and so

33:26

they're not going to defend and they're

33:28

going to play a lot of fun games down

33:30

the stretch and see if their attacking

33:32

players can't do something so it'll be

33:34

more akin to the chelsea team that where

33:36

it was unacceptable to lose but for

33:38

everton swashbuckling is great as long

33:40

as they win

33:42

one out of three games they're gold yeah

33:45

there's nothing ahead of them in this

33:46

season anyway they're they're i mean if

33:49

this castle is going yeah villa watford

33:53

this is a watershed game i think villa

33:55

need a big performance against watford

33:57

watford are in bad shape uncle roy is

33:59

getting nothing out of this team uh

34:01

they're defensively terrible

34:03

and at least under their previous

34:05

managers uh they were scoring goals but

34:07

now they can't now they just give up

34:09

goals and now they can't score goals

34:11

either so they are really hitting yeah

34:14

but the bottom of the battery really

34:15

have had a wobble in the last month or

34:17

so yeah i would say i would say that's

34:19

true this is a game where they really

34:20

need to come out strong um

34:22

and and kind of reassert themselves as a

34:25

top half team because they've fallen

34:26

into 12th um and they're

34:30

their last game was a loss and i don't

34:32

remember who it was against that they

34:33

didn't expect them it was bad it was it

34:36

was everton

34:38

yeah yeah and that was a bad loss

34:40

everton and then the 3-3 against leeds

34:42

like they're having some trouble here so

34:44

uh oh no sorry they lost to newcastle

34:46

that was even worse well yeah

34:49

uh and then

34:50

there's a couple of interesting ones to

34:51

round out the week right we've got

34:53

crystal palace hosting chelsea i don't

34:55

know

34:56

the terms of conor gallagher's loan

34:58

agreement they may make him say oh no he

35:00

won't play he won't play yeah

35:02

they still let you play yeah yeah so

35:04

that's a big uh shot to palace but um

35:07

you know yeah but that could be that

35:09

could mean that that could mean that

35:10

alicia

35:12

and eze play with zaha which could be

35:14

fun sure yeah no i mean uh yeah no no

35:17

no gallagher

35:19

not noel gallagher but no gallagher

35:22

against uh against chelsea will be sad

35:26

um but again crystal palace

35:28

a problem leeds united vs man united

35:31

that will be good on sunday because

35:32

leeds will bring it and they will punch

35:35

men united in the face or they won't

35:37

united could just blow them away

35:39

right uh if leeds shows fight early this

35:43

is going to be one of those

35:45

lead scores early united bluebirds come

35:47

out it's at ellen road i don't trust

35:49

united at all i think their their game

35:51

plan is make manchester united flinch so

35:54

this is going to be a fun one to see if

35:55

they can succeed um wolves in leicester

35:58

i was going to round out the week on on

36:00

sunday at 11 30 eastern

36:03

dogs

36:05

two teams that you don't really know

36:07

what they are wolves have been you know

36:09

strong they're on the cusp of this top

36:11

four european spot uh conversation

36:14

lester are not

36:16

but if you would have if you would have

36:17

told me six months ago that lester is

36:19

going to be in seventh and and wolves

36:21

are going to be in 11th i go yeah that

36:22

makes 100 sense but if you would have

36:24

told me wolves in seventh and western

36:26

eleventh i've been like that's a little

36:27

funky so um it's gonna be interesting to

36:30

see if wolves can keep their run going

36:31

they're four out of five um the one loss

36:33

they had was to arsenal who are right

36:35

above them um

36:37

so they're winning games that they

36:38

should and that's how you like obviously

36:41

that's how you get into the top four in

36:42

european races um

36:45

but it's a tricky one i think that

36:46

they're home right they're at um they're

36:49

at the molineux so yeah so they should

36:50

have the advantage going in but um we'll

36:53

see we'll see i think lester can still

36:54

pack a punch on leicester are you ready

36:57

for this uh-huh

36:59

lester have a bottom five defense

37:03

yeah that's how bad they are

37:05

so uh

37:08

versus a have the how almost the best

37:11

defense third best i think yeah wolves

37:13

have the second best defense in the

37:14

league okay but they have two games less

37:16

so they have set

37:18

14 city are on 14 against then wolves

37:21

then chelsea but they've only played 23

37:23

games but they can't score so

37:26

we have an immovable object versus a

37:28

removable force of uh of leicester can

37:32

score they need to try to score they

37:34

need to play daca and madsen and get all

37:37

those guys moving and just

37:39

not try and sit on leads if they get a

37:42

lead they need to pour it on get to four

37:45

and hang on for four twos right just

37:47

lester need to be

37:49

1314 liverpool without luis suarez

37:52

that's how they have to play yeah

37:54

so i mean i mean

37:56

brendan rodgers should know how to do

37:57

that so

37:59

just get it going find out who your

38:01

louis suarez is he may be on your team

38:03

his name may be pats and daca

38:06

so just get that going and hopefully

38:08

that's that's a good game because i do i

38:10

do enjoy wolves they're weirdly a

38:13

defensive team that i don't find

38:15

boring because um neves and moutinho are

38:18

so so good when they play and they do

38:20

put things together and that brings us

38:22

to our friends manchester city versus

38:24

tottenham uh everything says you should

38:26

get blown away you can't score you can't

38:29

defend we're the top scoring team in the

38:31

league with the best defense you should

38:33

have a problem this should be a really

38:36

not in the face game this could be ugly

38:38

from the jump

38:39

but

38:40

in recent years

38:42

at the etihad i have

38:44

a lot of good memories

38:46

so i don't think

38:49

tottenham are a team that get up for the

38:51

big games which is good because they're

38:52

going to have a handful of them coming

38:54

up um

38:55

but i think that like i said off the top

38:58

you know

38:59

they're all of the reason and logic say

39:01

tottenham are going to get blown to

39:03

pieces in this game and if city score an

39:06

early goal as we say pretty much every

39:08

week about city then they will

39:10

but if and and that's been the thing for

39:12

me with spurs against wolves against i

39:15

forget who it was before that but it was

39:17

it was shaky

39:19

and southampton oh they got absolutely

39:21

battered by southampton so and but it

39:24

was it wasn't over the course of 90

39:26

minutes per se as much as it was in the

39:28

first 15 you didn't leave your own 18

39:30

year old to me to me it's

39:33

if city can shackle sunny it's sunny who

39:36

kills city it's sunny on the break

39:40

is kyle walker on the team tyler

39:43

walker's got to be in that game he's got

39:45

to be the controlling thing because

39:48

spurs are too good not to get breaks

39:50

there will be moments it's going to

39:53

happen but will it be two

39:55

yeah the problem i find is if ben davies

39:58

starts

39:58

yeah i mean all that all that defense

40:00

problem is if something if you know

40:02

you're still not going to have skip i'm

40:03

pretty sure in the midfield so did he

40:05

die

40:06

he's still working through something i

40:08

don't remember exactly what but but so

40:09

so

40:11

we're we're pining for eric dyer this is

40:13

where we are

40:16

weird but weird you know watch the first

40:18

10 minutes of this game not so much

40:20

about how city look but about how

40:21

tottenham look because if they're at

40:23

sixes and sevens and they're a [ __ ] show

40:24

at the back well

40:25

buckle up because it's gonna be a bumpy

40:27

ride will have the advantage of time

40:30

you'll have had more time to right

40:33

because you played midweek city will

40:35

have played and been in portugal and

40:37

back yeah so that is one thing but it's

40:39

not like city don't have a whole other

40:41

group to play so it's fine they they

40:43

made the trip but i mean

40:45

let's see when did you score in that

40:47

game uh because it was over almost as

40:49

soon as it started it was done they were

40:51

up for at halftime it was not a yeah it

40:53

was a very low stress game

40:56

exactly so it wasn't as though

40:58

they were they were really uh exerting

41:00

themselves yes 7 17 32 and 44. i will

41:04

give you i will give you i will give you

41:05

your fear stat of the day you ready

41:07

since losing two nil at home to crystal

41:09

palace in october man city have earned

41:11

43 from available 45 in the premier

41:14

league going 14 1 and nil with the

41:17

exception being the 1-1 draw last month

41:19

for southampton manchester city have

41:21

lost just one of their last 11 home

41:24

league games against tottenham going

41:27

eight and two with two draws before we

41:30

were having gone down 2-1 in february i

41:32

remember the loss and we drew we drew

41:35

with you

41:36

uh the 2-2 a couple years ago when we

41:39

had 35 shots on opening day

41:42

uh

41:43

that was the that was the laporte

41:45

handball that wasn't a handball

41:48

no that was the lucas

41:50

lucas comes on late uh and and scores a

41:53

header like in the first touch of the

41:54

game from him um when they had the green

41:57

jerseys i think it was: 2019

41:59

the: 2019

42:02

[ __ ] [ __ ] games that you guys

42:04

have pulled out of your asses that was

42:05

2018 19. no because it was like right

42:08

after it was like it was before the

42:10

champions league final but it was like

42:11

right after i actually let you guys

42:13

let's let's let's see let's really go

42:15

down memory lane yeah let's do this you

42:18

[ __ ] [ __ ]

42:20

and we got you we got listen if we win

42:23

we could do the double

42:25

yes which would be

42:27

completely shocking let's see uh we've

42:30

got well i think

42:31

this season you won one nil yep right

42:34

yep uh and then the efl cup we beat you

42:37

one nil the mourinho got fired game

42:40

where's the 2-2 the 2-2 was the first

42:43

week of the season

42:44

uh the expected goals was 2.9 to 0.3 on

42:48

a 2-2 that was

42:50

19 that was the opening week of of of of

42:54

of

42:55

1920.

43:00

at the etihad yes okay pochettino is

43:02

still there lamela scored and morris

43:05

scored in the fifth six minutes yeah

43:07

city

43:07

city were up

43:09

2-1 and then maura came on in the second

43:11

half i remember ready for the stats here

43:13

are you ready for this one yeah

43:15

city had 30 shots eight on target you

43:18

had hit two out of three

43:20

yep

43:21

that's that's the formula

43:22

all right and then uh there was a goal

43:24

chalked off in the final minute

43:26

uh yes

43:28

uh it's happened again it's happened

43:30

again yeah i remember that was the

43:32

laporte uh game right that was uh brutal

43:35

uh it was good old good old friend nico

43:38

domendi was still on the team um

43:41

uh you know this there was some old

43:42

friends that uh were in this game your

43:44

team had a lot of old friends uh

43:46

erickson was still around [ __ ] around

43:49

so playing

43:51

: 1920

43:54

we were in the stadium already

43:57

um

43:58

there's been some real

43:59

bangers where city just completely

44:02

annihilated

44:05

you've had some under one goal games

44:08

under one we had the champions league

44:09

the champions league games

44:12

um

44:12

where we actually went 1-1

44:15

um

44:16

the fourth and then [ __ ] bonkers oh

44:18

my god it was that was still the wildest

44:21

game i've ever seen um and then the

44:23

thing the one i remember the game that

44:25

eat you at the etihad was the: 2016

44:27

valentine's day um and i've said this on

44:30

the show before it was uh lamela

44:33

through the pa through the legs of the

44:35

city center back to erickson in the 85th

44:38

minute i believe um and a man kissed me

44:42

on the lips after that game uh and it

44:44

was valentine's day so i cheated on my

44:46

now wife with a man uh i mean but there

44:49

are some real [ __ ] names on this team

44:51

that no city fan ever remembers again

44:54

fernando people no one remembers

44:56

zabaleta and cliche in the back i mean

44:58

this is this is year two pellegrini not

45:02

not right

45:03

this is your ascendant the ascendant

45:05

spurs yeah this is the declining post

45:09

pep is about to come i think pep may

45:11

have been announced already and the team

45:13

completely checks out

45:15

yeah

45:16

they're

45:19

who called him a dusty [ __ ] was it uh

45:22

was it it's the coach from newcastle the

45:25

[ __ ] with the white hair oh steve

45:27

bruce no no no the the other guy who did

45:30

the dance against

45:31

in the in the pardon yes yes he called

45:34

him a dusty gun oh that's fantastic

45:37

what a great what a great insult um

45:41

that that 2-1 game

45:43

also walker was on our side still and i

45:46

forget who this city i think it was

45:48

sterling it had of course it was

45:49

sterling he's away and in frame comes

45:52

kyle walker like [ __ ] road runner

45:56

and he shoves him in the back in the

45:58

penalty area no call no call

46:01

and like my my

46:03

balls are in my throat i'm like oh my

46:05

god how the [ __ ] did you get away with

46:07

that

46:08

that always see so there are two things

46:10

about raheem sterling

46:12

that i love about him one

46:14

he i believe and we'd have to check and

46:17

i don't care if it's true it doesn't

46:18

matter i believe he's the all-time

46:20

leader in penalties called against like

46:22

he's drawn the most penalties in premier

46:24

league history okay he also doesn't get

46:27

any penalties called like it could be

46:29

even more

46:30

yeah yeah because he's he draws so many

46:33

because i mean the great thing about

46:34

raheem sterling is as much as

46:37

he's frustrating and can't finish

46:39

he gets to where he's supposed to be oh

46:42

yeah and so he gets knocked over all the

46:44

time

46:45

but

46:47

he's but he's also really strong and

46:49

gets in position and runs where he needs

46:51

to be and when he's in form

46:53

he may end up in a top five all-time

46:56

premier league goal scorers it's just

46:57

like for a guy who can't shoot

47:00

and has a chocolate foot

47:02

meaning it it

47:04

spins it cracks

47:06

the guy is just scores goals he's like

47:09

he's he's more than a tap-in merchant

47:11

because he's not a big lumberer who

47:13

stays in the box he he does take people

47:15

on but you know he does get into places

47:17

and he started at [ __ ] 16 years old

47:20

and he there's nothing slowing down

47:21

about him and i he's hard to love which

47:25

is weird i get that all right so then

47:27

it's it's time what say you on saturday

47:30

at 12 30 eastern

47:32

i'm going hard i'm going to give you

47:34

guys a goal but it's going to be like

47:35

4-1 i get that

47:37

i'm i'm taking i'm taking one nil spurs

47:40

no no i can't you're not stopping

47:42

no one won one more you're going and

47:44

then doris loris is men of the match

47:47

he [ __ ] you last week did you talk

47:50

about how [ __ ] he was no he didn't

47:53

he didn't dude he kicked an atom ball to

47:56

davies and he had two chances to block

47:58

the other one and he hit it right to

47:59

[ __ ] potence no he punched it out and

48:02

and i as i said it went to him and as

48:04

not potents and jimin has made a great

48:06

pen the volley but no i mean first and

48:08

foremost he has earned the right to make

48:11

as many mistakes as he wants for two

48:13

reasons a he's one of the best keepers

48:15

shot stoppers in the world if not the

48:17

best and

48:18

he plays with that defense in front of

48:21

him every [ __ ] week

48:23

they're awful okay

48:25

so

48:27

even if i believe that that goal was his

48:29

fault which i still don't

48:31

it's okay put it on his tab because he

48:34

has

48:34

a lot more to go before we're all even

48:36

with davies and sanchez and [ __ ] um

48:40

who's the other one royal okay that

48:43

guy's bat yeah and tanganga and aurier

48:47

and like and

48:49

concussed for tongan okay

48:52

poor concussed

48:54

is he still somewhere just throwing up

48:55

from his concussion

48:58

i should never say any mean words about

49:00

super yawn i love him i'm sorry i'm

49:02

sorry john

49:03

um but no so i'll take it i'll take a

49:06

1-1

49:09

we need that needs to be your [ __ ]

49:11

you need to change your fantasy team

49:12

name to concur yeah

49:14

that'd be amazing vomiting yawn

49:17

vomiting young even better you know

49:19

what's really sad are you ready for how

49:21

bad the man united defense is they're

49:23

third in shots allowed and number one in

49:25

saves wow

49:27

that is so bad

49:32

like i can see making fun of edison i'm

49:35

gonna go through this edison i think for

49:36

the last five years has faced the least

49:38

shots in the league he never yeah

49:40

nothing ever happens uh allison is

49:42

probably close

49:44

alison's always right behind him meaning

49:46

he's ahead of him

49:47

by one

49:48

anyway i'm wrapping this [ __ ] up all

49:50

right let's get out of here

49:51

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49:54

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49:56

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